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MintBaconDrivel  
#1 Posted : Thursday, November 7, 2013 6:18:44 AM(UTC)

JerseyAl said:
I feel like I’m listening to a broken record. Except when this record plays, it’s only after the Green Bay Packers lose a game. For some strange reason, I never hear this record after wins. So it’s been a while that this song has played. The Packers won four straight games before losing to the [...]

Take a look at the following names for a moment:

  1. Nick Perry
  2. Derek Sherrod
  3. Bryan Bulaga
  4. B.J. Raji
  5. Clay Matthews
  6. A.J. Hawk
  7. Aaron Rodgers


Figure out the common thread yet?
Porforis  
#2 Posted : Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:09:51 AM(UTC)

Don't forget about WINNING games without Cobb and Jones for what, two weeks? And Finley for a week and a half?
wpr  
#3 Posted : Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:53:20 AM(UTC)

injuries happen. That is nobody's fault (unless it is due to not properly stretching. ;)
Not having the proper backups when injuries occur can be Ted's fault. The disclaimer is you can have quality backups 4 deep at every position. They do need depth at the the key positions. QB is certainly one of the key spots. Ted has failed monumentally here. Has for years but it didn't bite him in the butt until now.
Porforis  
#4 Posted : Thursday, November 7, 2013 8:09:02 AM(UTC)

wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
injuries happen. That is nobody's fault (unless it is due to not properly stretching. ;)
Not having the proper backups when injuries occur can be Ted's fault. The disclaimer is you can have quality backups 4 deep at every position. They do need depth at the the key positions. QB is certainly one of the key spots. Ted has failed monumentally here. Has for years but it didn't bite him in the butt until now.


Losing one game with a backup QB that was not lost exclusively because of the backup QB != Monumental failure. Give Seneca at least a full (shorter due to the Monday night game) week with the starters before proclaiming failure.
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wpr  
#5 Posted : Thursday, November 7, 2013 8:32:50 AM(UTC)

Porforis said: Go to Quoted Post
Losing one game with a backup QB that was not lost exclusively because of the backup QB != Monumental failure. Give Seneca at least a full (shorter due to the Monday night game) week with the starters before proclaiming failure.


It is my opinion. I am waiting to see if I am right (I hope not.) or wrong. I don't have to wait 3,4,5 weeks before I give my opinion.
nerdmann  
#6 Posted : Thursday, November 7, 2013 12:05:16 PM(UTC)

wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
injuries happen. That is nobody's fault (unless it is due to not properly stretching. ;)
Not having the proper backups when injuries occur can be Ted's fault. The disclaimer is you can have quality backups 4 deep at every position. They do need depth at the the key positions. QB is certainly one of the key spots. Ted has failed monumentally here. Has for years but it didn't bite him in the butt until now.


WHAT!?

Ted has failed monumentally to stock this team with depth!? LOL

Dumbest thing I've ever seen on this site.
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wpr  
#7 Posted : Thursday, November 7, 2013 12:07:25 PM(UTC)

nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
WHAT!?

Ted has failed monumentally to stock this team with depth!? LOL

Dumbest thing I've ever seen on this site.


can you read nermann? I was talking about the QB position.
sschind  
#8 Posted : Thursday, November 7, 2013 1:49:04 PM(UTC)

I'm not sure if I like the idea of blaming injuries. Its like blaming the refs. Acknowledge your teams failure on the field and move on.

The Bears were without Cutler and Briggs and Melton and a few other guys and they won the game.

All teams have injuries and while it is great to win despite them blaming them for losses is not much more than whining and making up excuses and we all know how much we hate it when fans of other team whine and make up excuses.
buckeyepackfan  
#9 Posted : Thursday, November 7, 2013 1:59:07 PM(UTC)

sschind said: Go to Quoted Post
I'm not sure if I like the idea of blaming injuries. Its like blaming the refs. Acknowledge your teams failure on the field and move on.

The Bears were without Cutler and Briggs and Melton and a few other guys and they won the game.

All teams have injuries and while it is great to win despite them blaming them for losses is not much more than whining and making up excuses and we all know how much we hate it when fans of other team whine and make up excuses.


The one flaw with your injury statement about The Bears is that it was probably a + for them that Cutler missed The Packers game, given his history against The Pack. [laughing] [laughing]

He is always good for 2 or 3 picks when Playing The Packers.

I do agree there is no sense in whining about injuries, not gonna change a thing.

Just gonna support the guys who are on the field this week and hope they have enough to win.
nerdmann  
#10 Posted : Thursday, November 7, 2013 4:36:27 PM(UTC)

wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
can you read nermann? I was talking about the QB position.


I like Seneca better than Harrell.
Cheesey  
#11 Posted : Thursday, November 7, 2013 4:43:58 PM(UTC)

nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
I like Seneca better than Harrell.


That's like saying "i like getting kicked in the left testicle instead of the right one".
[grin1] [grin1] [grin1] [grin1] [grin1] [grin1] [grin1]
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sschind  
#12 Posted : Thursday, November 7, 2013 6:02:27 PM(UTC)

buckeyepackfan said: Go to Quoted Post
The one flaw with your injury statement about The Bears is that it was probably a + for them that Cutler missed The Packers game, given his history against The Pack. [laughing] [laughing]

He is always good for 2 or 3 picks when Playing The Packers.



Yeah, I thought of that. He was probably ready to play
last Sunday and Tressman looked at his record against the Packers and said why don't you sit this one out.
DoddPower  
#13 Posted : Thursday, November 7, 2013 6:09:12 PM(UTC)

Ted's never been anywhere near perfect, nor has any other GM. However, I still wouldn't trade him for many other GM's in the NFL. The guy consistently puts a unit together that has a chance to win every week, and was looking like a true Super Bowl contender before Rodgers went down. That's the results of a very good general manager.

If Aaron Rodgers can come back healthy relatively soon and the Packers squeak into the playoffs (which will probably be the case), the Packers will be poised to make a deep run, and could very likely win another Super Bowl. It could be better, sure, but other than the injuries, it's hard to complain. There's not many teams, if any, I'd rather have than the Packers, especially now that it has one of the best rushing attacks in the league.
wpr  
#14 Posted : Thursday, November 7, 2013 9:18:49 PM(UTC)

nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
I like Seneca better than Harrell.


So one sucky QB replacing another sucky QB gets kudos from you?
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#15 Posted : Thursday, November 7, 2013 9:53:12 PM(UTC)

My contention is that the Packers overall other than QB are a well below average team. Ted Thompson made them that way. Aaron Rodgers made up for a whole lot of mediocrity - O Line, much of the defense, RB until this season, etc.

You could say that Thompson was delinquent and got away with it having Harrell as the backup. However, instead of upgrading, he severely downgraded with Seneca Wallace - and make no mistake, Wallace is total crap even compared to Harrell.

I would love to find out Sunday afternoon that I'm wrong, and Seneca Wallace is capable of a decent game, but I just don't think that is possible. All the practice reps, all the designer gameplanning, etc. ain't gonna make up for his non-NFL arm, his lack of height, and his lack of speed - supposedly his only strength, but it sure didn't look that way.
steveishere  
#16 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 7:43:33 AM(UTC)

texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post

You could say that Thompson was delinquent and got away with it having Harrell as the backup. However, instead of upgrading, he severely downgraded with Seneca Wallace - and make no mistake, Wallace is total crap even compared to Harrell.



See stuff like this is what makes your opinion on this matter a complete joke. There is literally no evidence to back up that claim. Nor do you even attempt to provide any. Harrell has a weak arm himself and less mobility and 0 game experience. He's done absolutely nothing in his career to make anybody think he is a significant upgrade to Wallace.
User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#17 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 7:46:48 AM(UTC)

steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
See stuff like this is what makes your opinion on this matter a complete joke. There is literally no evidence to back up that claim. Nor do you even attempt to provide any. Harrell has a weak arm himself and less mobility and 0 game experience.


And you actually think piece of shit Wallace is better than that? Come on! I was no fan of Harrell, but even he was clearly better than Wallace.

steveishere  
#18 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 7:50:08 AM(UTC)

texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
And you actually think piece of sh!t Wallace is better than that? Come on! I was no fan of Harrell, but even he was clearly better than Wallace.



No he wasn't "clearly" better than anybody because he's never played.

You sound like someone who has a personal beef with Wallace for whatever reason so you are sensationalizing everything you say about him. What's so hard about just making reasonable statements about the guy? I get if you don't think he's good by all means let us know but saying something like "Wallace is worse than if you broke both of Joe Theismans legs and put him out there with no o-line and Ahmad Carroll as his only WR" makes it hard for anybody to take your opinion seriously.
User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#19 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 8:18:29 AM(UTC)

steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
No he wasn't "clearly" better than anybody because he's never played.

You sound like someone who has a personal beef with Wallace for whatever reason so you are sensationalizing everything you say about him. What's so hard about just making reasonable statements about the guy? I get if you don't think he's good by all means let us know but saying something like "Wallace is worse than if you broke both of Joe Theismans legs and put him out there with no o-line and Ahmad Carroll as his only WR" makes it hard for anybody to take your opinion seriously.


Ahmad Carroll didn't play WR - or was that you're point hahaha?

I said upfront, my beef with Wallace if you want to call it that is that we cut 3 better QBs in order to keep him. You saw him play on Monday; And yes, we did see Harrell in preseason anyway. Harrell wasn't much, but he sure as hell was NOT as bad as Wallace. And Vince Young - irrelevant now - was head and shoulders better (not to mention taller). The relevant comparison now is Tolzien - who I haven't seen since Wisconsin, but I'd bet is a lot better, and maybe Flynn - whose quality depends on the rumors of injury. And the fact that those are the ONLY choices, THAT is on Ted Thompson - in addition to the fact that outside of Aaron Rodgers, Ted Thompson has not really put together much of a team.

steveishere  
#20 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 8:21:23 AM(UTC)

How can you think Ted hasn't put together much of a team when they almost won a game with one of the worst QBs in the league playing the whole thing?

Not only did he play the whole thing he even threw a decent amount of passes during it.
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