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Offline steveishere  
#16 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 7:43:33 AM(UTC)
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You could say that Thompson was delinquent and got away with it having Harrell as the backup. However, instead of upgrading, he severely downgraded with Seneca Wallace - and make no mistake, Wallace is total crap even compared to Harrell.



See stuff like this is what makes your opinion on this matter a complete joke. There is literally no evidence to back up that claim. Nor do you even attempt to provide any. Harrell has a weak arm himself and less mobility and 0 game experience. He's done absolutely nothing in his career to make anybody think he is a significant upgrade to Wallace.
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#17 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 7:46:48 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
See stuff like this is what makes your opinion on this matter a complete joke. There is literally no evidence to back up that claim. Nor do you even attempt to provide any. Harrell has a weak arm himself and less mobility and 0 game experience.


And you actually think piece of shit Wallace is better than that? Come on! I was no fan of Harrell, but even he was clearly better than Wallace.

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#18 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 7:50:08 AM(UTC)
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And you actually think piece of sh!t Wallace is better than that? Come on! I was no fan of Harrell, but even he was clearly better than Wallace.



No he wasn't "clearly" better than anybody because he's never played.

You sound like someone who has a personal beef with Wallace for whatever reason so you are sensationalizing everything you say about him. What's so hard about just making reasonable statements about the guy? I get if you don't think he's good by all means let us know but saying something like "Wallace is worse than if you broke both of Joe Theismans legs and put him out there with no o-line and Ahmad Carroll as his only WR" makes it hard for anybody to take your opinion seriously.
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#19 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 8:18:29 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
No he wasn't "clearly" better than anybody because he's never played.

You sound like someone who has a personal beef with Wallace for whatever reason so you are sensationalizing everything you say about him. What's so hard about just making reasonable statements about the guy? I get if you don't think he's good by all means let us know but saying something like "Wallace is worse than if you broke both of Joe Theismans legs and put him out there with no o-line and Ahmad Carroll as his only WR" makes it hard for anybody to take your opinion seriously.


Ahmad Carroll didn't play WR - or was that you're point hahaha?

I said upfront, my beef with Wallace if you want to call it that is that we cut 3 better QBs in order to keep him. You saw him play on Monday; And yes, we did see Harrell in preseason anyway. Harrell wasn't much, but he sure as hell was NOT as bad as Wallace. And Vince Young - irrelevant now - was head and shoulders better (not to mention taller). The relevant comparison now is Tolzien - who I haven't seen since Wisconsin, but I'd bet is a lot better, and maybe Flynn - whose quality depends on the rumors of injury. And the fact that those are the ONLY choices, THAT is on Ted Thompson - in addition to the fact that outside of Aaron Rodgers, Ted Thompson has not really put together much of a team.

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#20 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 8:21:23 AM(UTC)
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How can you think Ted hasn't put together much of a team when they almost won a game with one of the worst QBs in the league playing the whole thing?

Not only did he play the whole thing he even threw a decent amount of passes during it.
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#21 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 8:40:36 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
How can you think Ted hasn't put together much of a team when they almost won a game with one of the worst QBs in the league playing the whole thing?

Not only did he play the whole thing he even threw a decent amount of passes during it.


Who? Ted? Oh you mean Wallace hahahaha. I say again, I HOPE he proves me wrong, and I have to eat my words Sunday, but I just don't think Wallace has an NFL arm capable of either quality passing or forcing the defense to not load up against the run.

And IF we had a decent O Line, whoever the QB is, he wouldn't have to run for his life every time he tries to throw; And IF we had a better defense, we wouldn't need God knows how many points to win - last game, next game, and for the past couple of years.

Did you notice how the Bears rebuilt their O Line - 4 of 5 newcomers since last season? The Cowboys have done basically the same, and maybe a few other teams I'm less familiar with. And look what we have. You can say injuries, but Bulaga was bad before his injury last season. Defense? Maybe we stack up pretty good against the worst teams, but not even close to the best.

All that is on Ted Thompson.

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#22 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 8:47:27 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker Go to Quoted Post
Did you notice how the Bears rebuilt their O Line - 4 of 5 newcomers since last season?


You can say injuries, but Bulaga was bad before his injury last season. Defense? Maybe we stack up pretty good against the worst teams, but not even close to the best.

All that is on Ted Thompson.


It's said everything starts at the line, right?

Total Offense = 2nd
Passing Offense = 6th
Rushing Offense = 2nd
Points For = 29.0 (3rd)



I'm far from being a Bryan Bugala apologist, but reports were he was dominating at the LT position until he got injured.

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#23 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 8:55:28 AM(UTC)
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It's said everything starts at the line, right?

Total Offense = 2nd
Passing Offense = 6th
Rushing Offense = 2nd
Points For = 29.0 (3rd)



I'm far from being a Bryan Bugala apologist, but reports were he was dominating at the LT position until he got injured.


Chalk up ALL those good stats - even the rushing offense - to Aaron Rodgers - and the need for opponents to try and stop him.

Whatever about Bulaga, but I can't recall a game maybe ever where he had the amount of time Brady or Brees or basically most QBs you can name had. He was literally always hurried and throwing on the run - and still doing it better than anybody else maybe in history.

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#24 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 8:59:14 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker Go to Quoted Post
Chalk up ALL those good stats - even the rushing offense - to Aaron Rodgers - and the need for opponents to try and stop him.

Whatever about Bulaga, but I can't recall a game maybe ever where he had the amount of time Brady or Brees or basically most QBs you can name had. He was literally always hurried and throwing on the run - and still doing it better than anybody else maybe in history.



No he literally wasn't. You are sensationalizing again. The line hasn't been that bad at all.
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#25 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 9:39:06 AM(UTC)
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Texas doesn't like Wallace, because he's BLACK.

Vince Young is fine, because to a guy like Texas, that's what black QBs are. All physical skills, no brains. So to Texas, that dude is just fine.

But a black QB who's relying on smarts!? Oh no!

Guess what. Seneca will be fine. Let him get some reps.
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#26 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 10:01:49 AM(UTC)
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Who? Ted? Oh you mean Wallace hahahaha. I say again, I HOPE he proves me wrong, and I have to eat my words Sunday, but I just don't think Wallace has an NFL arm capable of either quality passing or forcing the defense to not load up against the run.

And IF we had a decent O Line, whoever the QB is, he wouldn't have to run for his life every time he tries to throw; And IF we had a better defense, we wouldn't need God knows how many points to win - last game, next game, and for the past couple of years.

Did you notice how the Bears rebuilt their O Line - 4 of 5 newcomers since last season? The Cowboys have done basically the same, and maybe a few other teams I'm less familiar with. And look what we have. You can say injuries, but Bulaga was bad before his injury last season. Defense? Maybe we stack up pretty good against the worst teams, but not even close to the best.

All that is on Ted Thompson.



No that doesn't explain how we could almost win a football game with a QB that "any QB would be better" than if the team around him was pretty much crap as well and relies solely on the play of it's starting QB to have any success.
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#27 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 10:18:54 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
No that doesn't explain how we could almost win a football game with a QB that "any QB would be better" than if the team around him was pretty much crap as well and relies solely on the play of it's starting QB to have any success.


OK, how did we ALMOST win? The biggest factor in that was that the stupid Bears D Coordinator did not adjust after Rodgers went out. Those two safeties playing so deep allowed Lacy and Starks to run wild. When the Bears finally did figure out that Wallace couldn't throw, they loaded the box and stopped the run. McCarthy pulling that onside kick out of his ass helped too, although it woulda helped a lot more if we coulda gotten a TD.

What's that they say about ALMOST? It only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades?

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#28 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 11:31:22 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker Go to Quoted Post
OK, how did we ALMOST win? The biggest factor in that was that the stupid Bears D Coordinator did not adjust after Rodgers went out. Those two safeties playing so deep allowed Lacy and Starks to run wild. When the Bears finally did figure out that Wallace couldn't throw, they loaded the box and stopped the run. McCarthy pulling that onside kick out of his ass helped too, although it woulda helped a lot more if we coulda gotten a TD.

What's that they say about ALMOST? It only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades?



The point is that with a overall team that sucks and a QB worse than every back up and every QB that isn't even on a team in the league how could they possibly be competitive? I would have expected them to lose something like 40 to 0 based on the things you've said instead they were winning the game until the last few minutes of the 3rd quarter. How is that possible?
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