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nerdmann  
#21 Posted : Sunday, November 10, 2013 5:40:18 PM(UTC)
Gaycandybacon said: Go to Quoted Post
Wait so Flynns arm will never recover from his injury?


Unknown.
Zero2Cool  
#22 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 6:12:57 AM(UTC)
Gaycandybacon said: Go to Quoted Post
Wait so Flynns arm will never recover from his injury?


Outside of Matt Flynn and his doctors, I don't think anyone has this answer. If Packers don't sign him, then we can pretty much assume your answer would be, no.
wpr  
#23 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 6:28:23 AM(UTC)
schroeder84 said: Go to Quoted Post
I was pleased with Scott Tolzien today - he was in no way perfect, but for a first go 'round with next to no practice and a new promotion from the practice squad, it was a decent enough day. I would like to see him play more. It's not that I dislike Matt Flynn, but even if they sign him Monday, he still has to get up to speed with this year's personnel and offense. So, no matter if they sign Flynn or recycle Seneca Wallace, I would like to see Tolzien get the start next week. Hopefully with a week's practice with whoever is left alive on the 1st team will help to make next week a better week for him and see his emergence as a decent backup.


says it all.
Zero2Cool  
#24 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 6:33:27 AM(UTC)
Bigbyfan said: Go to Quoted Post
Tolzien has proven to me that he is a capable backup. He'll probably show more improvement with a week with the 1st team.


Tolzien has never thrown for 280 yards in college or the pro's before. I think his passing attempts was a career high when factoring in college too.

Seem like a lot to ask of a guy who a week ago was on the practice squad and took minimal snaps as the starter.
dhazer  
#25 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 7:27:06 AM(UTC)
DoddPower said: Go to Quoted Post
Man, you sure do have some inside information! Flynn's career is done due to an injury! I wish I had your sources.


Thats why Flynn is on his way to Green Bay for a workout today? Maybe they are making a qb coaching change.
PackFanWithTwins  
#26 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 7:50:14 AM(UTC)
Right now we have a QB that knows the playbook and can't play in Rodgers. We don't need that in a backup with Flynn as well.

I was rather pleasantly surprised with Tolzien. He has a much stronger arm than I remember. For the most part he made some nice decisions with the ball. Sure he also made a couple poor ones but how much can you expect from somebody who was on the practice squad a week ago.

He zipped some nice passes, threw with some touch at times, and the sidearm to Kuhn showed some nice improve. He managed the offense very well, moving up and down the field more than a couple times.

If a couple PIs get called, who knows.

play2win  
#27 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 8:23:20 AM(UTC)
I, too, was super impressed with Tolzien. All things considered, he did a decent job. I would stick with him.

This game was a classic clusterfrick. Losing EDS and Barclay hurt, for sure. Oh well. All we need to do is steal 2 or 3 wins in our next 4 games. That would give us a shot at 10-6 or 11-5 with a healthy return of Rodgers and some others.

@NYG
MIN
@DET
ATL

Maybe we split that. Maybe we surprise one of those teams and steal one, getting 3 wins in these next 4. Maybe, we win them all… wishful thinking, but possible.
nerdmann  
#28 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 9:01:13 AM(UTC)
play2win said: Go to Quoted Post
I, too, was super impressed with Tolzien. All things considered, he did a decent job. I would stick with him.

This game was a classic clusterfrick. Losing EDS and Barclay hurt, for sure. Oh well. All we need to do is steal 2 or 3 wins in our next 4 games. That would give us a shot at 10-6 or 11-5 with a healthy return of Rodgers and some others.

@NYG
MIN
@DET
ATL

Maybe we split that. Maybe we surprise one of those teams and steal one, getting 3 wins in these next 4. Maybe, we win them all… wishful thinking, but possible.


If we can't beat Minny, we don't deserve the playoffs.

If I'm Mike, I shitcan Seneca last night, bring in Flynn as the backup. Ok, maybe take a look at Flynn first. If Flynn can't go it, call Graham Harrell.

I've heard Flynn's got tendinitis in the elbow. That's treatable with alternative modalities like acupuncture. I've got some special kung fu linimints and stuff that could help. I got scar tissue in my arm from baseball, and if I needle my arm first, it's a huge difference.
buckeyepackfan  
#29 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 9:29:02 AM(UTC)
There is another option!!!!!

Make the call Ted!!!!
play2win  
#30 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 9:43:48 AM(UTC)
We have been nothing but tonic to the Giants when they are ailing. Now they are coming off of 3 straight wins… would love to shock them and take them down in their house. It is a dream, but I would love to see it happen. Tolzien or Flynn. Doesn't matter to me. Get somebody ready to manage the game and hand the ball off!!!!

On another note, why is Mike McCarthy asking our 3rd string QB to make these back shoulder throws to a WR running a post in the back of the end zone and expecting him to hit it? There are probably 7 QBs playing now that can make those throws. It is almost as if McCarthy refuses to change his game plan. Refuses to recognize he had his 3rd stringer in there, with little to no prep.

Isn't getting your entire team prepared for Sunday part of the job description? Yourself as HC included? Like, what's the plan should Wallace go down? Keep throwing?

wow.
luigis  
#31 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 9:52:55 AM(UTC)
play2win said: Go to Quoted Post
We have been nothing but tonic to the Giants when they are ailing. Now they are coming off of 3 straight wins… would love to shock them and take them down in their house. It is a dream, but I would love to see it happen. Tolzien or Flynn. Doesn't matter to me. Get somebody ready to manage the game and hand the ball off!!!!

On another note, why is Mike McCarthy asking our 3rd string QB to make these back shoulder throws to a WR running a post in the back of the end zone and expecting him to hit it? There are probably 7 QBs playing now that can make those throws. It is almost as if McCarthy refuses to change his game plan. Refuses to recognize he had his 3rd stringer in there, with little to no prep.

Isn't getting your entire team prepared for Sunday part of the job description? Yourself as HC included? Like, what's the plan should Wallace go down? Keep throwing?

wow.


I see the Giants as the most clear loss I've ever seen so that means we probably have a chance.
Tolzien will realize where he is and probably have a terrible game. He didn't have time to think against the Eagles. (or did he?) ;)
Eli will feast on the lack of pass rush and the inability of our secondary to cover. He'll have his best game of the season. Most QBs usually have their best game of the season/career against our defense.

Yerko  
#32 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 11:21:55 AM(UTC)
I'd roll with Tolzien. He knows the playbook better than Flynn (right now) and now has a game under his belt with the starters. Tolzien played as well as we could have expected and if he can play that way, the Packers have a few chances these next couple of weeks, pending our defense does something different.
Zero2Cool  
#33 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 11:43:14 AM(UTC)
SINCITYCHEEZE  
#34 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 12:22:45 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post


Maybe we can convince him to bring Billy Bob to come play on the offensive line too.


Edit.... Well maybe not. He's a bit light these days.
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Zero2Cool  
#35 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 2:15:59 PM(UTC)



Zero2Cool  
#36 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 5:35:11 PM(UTC)
Alright, Matt Flynn is SIGNED.

Do you want Flynn taking starter reps or Tolzien?

buckeyepackfan  
#37 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 5:39:16 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Alright, Matt Flynn is SIGNED.

Do you want Flynn taking starter reps or Tolzien?



Tolzien this week, let Flynn get comfortable, no sense going into this game with another "just signed player.

Flynn can be ready enough if Tolzien really struggles, Mike already named him starter, go with the rookie this week.
Zero2Cool  
#38 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 5:40:19 PM(UTC)
buckeyepackfan said: Go to Quoted Post
Tolzien this week, let Flynn get comfortable, no sense going into this game with another "just signed player.

Flynn can be ready enough if Tolzien really struggles, Mike already named him starter, go with the rookie this week.


Flynn isn't just another signed player. He has YEARS of experience in the offense. I think he can preform better with a week of practice than Tolzien.

This is all new to Tolzien.
This will be a refresher for Flynn.
nerdmann  
#39 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 5:42:59 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Flynn isn't just another signed player. He has YEARS of experience in the offense. I think he can preform better with a week of practice than Tolzien.

This is all new to Tolzien.
This will be a refresher for Flynn.


Let Flynn's arm get right.

Doesn't sound like he's gonna wear it down with practice reps at backup. lol
DarkaneRules  
#40 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 5:43:33 PM(UTC)
They need to split reps. We cannot have another situation like the last two weeks.
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