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User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#21 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 8:51:27 AM(UTC)
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play2win said: Go to Quoted Post
That's the problem. It wasn't Aaron Rodgers back there, but that's the way McCarthy called the game, as if he were still back there.

The whole point texaspackerbacker is coming away from these drives with ZERO points or a token FG is demoralizing to your own D, and the whole team for that matter.

We needed 3 yards, 1 yard, and 2 yards to keep those drives alive, and we passed every time with our 3rd string QB. That seems foolish to me. 1st and goal from the 9? and we don't even run? Wow. Even moreso. All deep in scoring territory. 3 out of 4 in the red zone. Foolish.

D stunk.

O stunk.


The O stunk because Rodgers was not there to make up for the woefully bad O Line. As I said, I'm sure McCarthy would say his playcalls were because of what the Eagles D was doing.

The D stunk, yes, but WHY? That is the reason for this thread. I say we would be even worse off without Capers' tricks and blitzes.

The culprit in ALL of this - O and D both stinking is TED THOMPSON!

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#22 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 9:02:35 AM(UTC)
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cheeseheads123 said: Go to Quoted Post
Lovie Smith anyone? Flapper


No bullshit. But he probly wants a HC gig.
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#23 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 9:07:54 AM(UTC)
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texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
The problem is NOT Capers. The problem is shoddy personnel - Thank you Ted Thompson.

The Packers simply are not capable of consistently manning up and playing basic defense. They NEED all those tricks and blitz packages, whatever. Do the "fire Capers" crowd not remember the days of whatshisname - Sanders? or the guy who came before him - that there was so-o-o-o much whining and complaining about because they featured bland defenses? Even then, the Packers lacked that basic toughness.

The problem is players like Raji and Brad Jones at the top of the list. Pickett is only even borderline if you compare him to Raji. Nick Perry hopefully will show something when healthy, but yesterday he was awful. Palmer was pathetic. Datone Jones and Neal improved from total crap to barely adequate yesterday, Clay Matthews wasn't himself playing one-armed. Our DBs have seemed to fail, but I suspect they are being asked to do too much with all the blitzing - necessary blitzing. Just the same, I saw Burnett mess up a few times, and the other Safeties mostly didn't even get close enough to see them mess up on TV. I used to criticize A. J. Hawk - justifiably, but he has really turned it around this season - all the way to where he is an average LB now.


We've got what, 6 first round picks on defense? A number of 2-3's?

Capers can do it with smoke and mirrors, but he's been exposed the last two weeks. BADLY.

Now he's got Clay back, so he should be back up to relatively full strength.

Capers track record is that the middle of the field goes uncovered and also, the team shits itself on a regular basis. The defense hasn't shown up ready to play for 60 either of the last two weeks.

Btw, Brad Jones had plenty of free agent interest, although I like Lattimore just as much if not more. And as for Datone, dude had TWO sacks yesterday. Sounds like the ankle is getting better.
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If you want to call for Capers head, what should have done different? Be more aggressive, less aggressive, blitz more, blitz difference, play coverage more or less? What? Before Capers, there was an outcry for a change in philosophy to be more aggressive.

Our problem seems more to be players failure than coaching.
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#25 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 10:26:48 AM(UTC)
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If you want to call for Capers head, what should have done different? Be more aggressive, less aggressive, blitz more, blitz difference, play coverage more or less? What? Before Capers, there was an outcry for a change in philosophy to be more aggressive.

Our problem seems more to be players failure than coaching.


I wouldn't put the defense in nickel when the Eagles were planning to run the clock.
I wouldn't put Matthews to play with one arm.
I wouldn't put MD Jennings on the field at all.
I would have double covered Boldin after his first 51 catches.
I wouldn't call a prevent-zone in 4th and miles.
I would have changed the scheme after the first 871 yards of Kapernick.
I would have covered Calvin Johnson (oh wait, that's from the future)

Capers needs to go, seriously.

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#26 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 10:30:15 AM(UTC)
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If you want to call for Capers head, what should have done different? Be more aggressive, less aggressive, blitz more, blitz difference, play coverage more or less? What? Before Capers, there was an outcry for a change in philosophy to be more aggressive.

Our problem seems more to be players failure than coaching.


The nice thing about sitting here on the internet (besides avoiding the work that is on our desks.) is we don't have to come up with a better plan. We don't have to name the DC who will do a better job. All we have to do is voice our discontent with Capers.

As far as a failure of the players = failure of the coaching staff as a whole.

I personally have not been much of a fan of the Psycho 1-5-5 or 2-4-5 or what ever formations he runs out there. It may work for a few snaps against a rookie if he and his OC are not prepared for it but 2-3 years later it is no longer a surprise and it is not as effective as it was the very first time it was trotted out.
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#27 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 10:35:55 AM(UTC)
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I personally have not been much of a fan of the Psycho 1-5-5 or 2-4-5 or what ever formations he runs out there. It may work for a few snaps against a rookie if he and his OC are not prepared for it but 2-3 years later it is no longer a surprise and it is not as effective as it was the very first time it was trotted out.


Did the 2-4-5 nickel get much use at all before 2012? I don't remember much of it before then.
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#28 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 10:39:54 AM(UTC)
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Did the 2-4-5 nickel get much use at all before 2012? I don't remember much of it before then.


yeah I thought he unveiled it back in 2010 when he had only 2 DL due to injuries. It wasn't horrible that game but GB won because of Aaron Rodgers and the offense.
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#29 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 10:49:34 AM(UTC)
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yeah I thought he unveiled it back in 2010 when he had only 2 DL due to injuries. It wasn't horrible that game but GB won because of Aaron Rodgers and the offense.


Maybe I'm not as versed in the 3-4 as I should be but it seems like with the 2-4-5 it sorta nerfs the pass rush of the OLB by having them line up across from the Ts and having them go head to head like they're DEs when they're giving up a lot of weight and size. I always thought with OLBs in 3-4 you want them more on the edge and using their speed and athleticism.
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The only part of the game I was able to watch was the last 5 minutes when Philly was trying to run out the clock. The defense just layed down. Very painfull to watch. 1st down after 1st down...
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