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Offline TheKanataThrilla  
#1 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 6:31:25 PM(UTC)
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Not pinning this loss on Tolzien, but I just think it couldn't hurt to see if Flynn can give us a spark.
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#2 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 6:32:14 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla Go to Quoted Post
Not pinning this loss on Tolzien, but I just think it couldn't hurt to see if Flynn can give us a spark.


No way. Tolzien is the man.
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#3 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 6:53:26 PM(UTC)
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I think Mike McCarthy will take a look at Flynn in practice but I'm guessing Mike McCarthy will stick with Tolzien.

Though I do have to wonder if Flynn might of won that game... I mean Tolzien did well other than two rookie type mistakes and a great play by the DE. Flynn might not of made those mistakes. But is Flynn 100% and is he the same old Flynn? If so he might get a look this week, if not he's probably not going to.
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#4 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 7:03:40 PM(UTC)
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Aaron Rodgers will be starting.
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#5 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 7:10:46 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla Go to Quoted Post
Not pinning this loss on Tolzien, but I just think it couldn't hurt to see if Flynn can give us a spark.


Take that clipboard out of McCarthy's hand and let a real play caller, call the game. This loss is on the HC. He is a frickin idiot. Time and time again, when the running game is working, he decides to throw the ball when close to the endzone. Today was just the opposite, the running game was not working so he starts to throw the ball and it was working, then he gives it back to the running game which failed big time

As far as your thought about putting in Flynn is asinine.Tolzien did great. McCrappy is the one who put the pressure on Tolzien

And where is any emotion on this team. They all look like deer in the headlights

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#6 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 7:23:13 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: packerfanoutwest Go to Quoted Post
Take that clipboard out of McCarthy's hand and let a real play caller, call the game. This loss is on the HC. He is a frickin idiot. Time and time again, when the running game is working, he decides to throw the ball when close to the endzone. Today was just the opposite, the running game was not working so he starts to throw the ball and it was working, then he gives it back to the running game which failed big time

As far as your thought about putting in Flynn is asinine.Tolzien did great. McCrappy is the one who put the pressure on Tolzien

And where is any emotion on this team. They all look like deer in the headlights


When Pierre Paul publicly states in the press that he knew what play was coming and that's how he got the pick six, that should tell you all you need to know.
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Offline DoddPower  
#7 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 7:58:36 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: packerfanoutwest Go to Quoted Post
Tolzien did great.


If that's your definition of "great," you have very low standards. Yes, Tolzien made some nice throws, but he also made some horrible decisions, which essentially made him break even, at best. Moving the ball well doesn't mean much if you can't capitalize and score touch downs. It's certainly not all on Tolzien by any means, but he has to play MUCH better if the Packers are to ever win a game with him as the quarterback. Especially since the defense sucks.

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Offline dyeah_gb  
#8 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 8:25:16 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DoddPower Go to Quoted Post
If that's your definition of "great," you have very low standards. Yes, Tolzien made some nice throws, but he also made some horrible decisions, which essentially made him break even, at best. Moving the ball well doesn't mean much if you can't capitalize and score touch downs. It's certainly not all on Tolzien by any means, but he has to play MUCH better if the Packers are to ever win a game with him as the quarterback. Especially since the defense sucks.



Agreed. I would not say that Tolzien sucked but there were definite flaws with his execution. Still interested to see him grow (ideally as a backup).
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Offline schroeder84  
#9 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:06:33 PM(UTC)
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I don't know enough about Flynn's current condition to comment on his ability to start. Tolzien was OK - not great, but showed signs he could be a decent backup. Personally I'm not ready to trash the guy yet since he had some very good moments, as well as some bad moments, but he has so very little experience - no training camp, running the scout offense until 2 weeks ago.

I was very surprised to see how many runs were attempted in the red zone when they weren't working anywhere else. I didn't see that as a way to set Tolzien and the team up for success in scoring TDs. It's was kinda brutal to watch actually.
Offline Gaycandybacon  
#10 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:21:28 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb Go to Quoted Post
Agreed. I would not say that Tolzien sucked but there were definite flaws with his execution. Still interested to see him grow (ideally as a backup).


I like him more than Harrell or Coleman. He's pretty much them combined. Full offseason with McCarthy and he could be pretty damn good. Played 2 games and ending up with 1 TD 5 INT is not good. But he gives me hope for a backup next year. Think his problem is he is a super gun slinger. Forces to many passes. He needs to learn if it's not there don't throw it. Obviously we were down all game, but he needs to be aware of these things. One thing Wallace did to well (except Peppers pick) was take care of the ball for the most part.
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