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Offline Yerko  
#16 Posted : Monday, November 18, 2013 9:39:35 AM(UTC)

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At this point, yes. The teams in this division have shown that they are beatable teams. They are nothing special.

Lions just lost to an ugly Steelers team...literally, ugly. Those jerseys are a monstrosity. No one is running away with this division and if the Packers can muster up a win at Minnesota this week, follow up with a Rodgers return and win on Thanksgiving then the chances are still there.

I'm going to be a realist now though. This defense gives me zero hope of anything happening in the playoffs. The team will live and die with the offensive production brought to you by Mr. Rodgers.
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The Vikings are not going to lay down for us, and we will make Ponder look competent. The Giants are not a good team, but looked it today.


No one expects the vikings to lay down. No team lies down for another. Its just that they are not good. The Giants are much better though they may not have been looking like it for the first part of the year. They have won 4 in a row. The Giants are a team we COULD beat and we could have beaten them. We are struggling but I think we are still better than the vikings and we SHOULD beat them.

What is the saying, if you can't beat the teams you SHOULD beat you might as well go home. If we can't beat the vikings we might as well go home and that's just where we may end up come playoff time.


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#18 Posted : Monday, November 18, 2013 10:36:19 AM(UTC)

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play2win said: Go to Quoted Post
5 losses, and each game could have been won by the Packers.

This is some very uninspired play and coaching we are seeing from most on the Packers football team. I'm shocked at the unnecessary penalties. 12 men on the field, illegal formations, personal fouls, etc. We've seen them all through these 5 losses. That is poor preparation.

Granted, we've suffered an inordinate number of key injuries, but other teams have had to deal with those as well. I'm not sure why, after the last two or three years of high injury totals, and this past offseason supposedly being dedicated to eliminating those and having an emphasis on player availability, we still find ourselves in this same position. WTF???

Again, poor preparation.

The one player who showed up, displaying incredible professionalism in a hostile NY environment, Tramon Williams, gets little respect from many fans. I hope he keeps it up, and that others will follow his example. I guess I would add Jordy Nelson to Williams, as another player who really has shown up with the goods. That's pretty much it.

We are going to need to essentially win out, and we will need a lot of luck, professionalism, and focus to accomplish this. We are not that far away, because we should have been able to win all of the games we lost. Yet, somehow we are. This team is not looking prepared, focused, nor ready to take on the challenges ahead to win. Far too many players making major mistakes.

EVERYONE on this Packers team has got to turn this around if we are to win the division. Players and coaches alike.


It doesn't help the preparation when Shields is a last minute scratch and he was to take on Cruz. Hyde's speed vs. Shields is no contest.
They have guys beat up that don't even practice all week and then this? The "next man up" thing is fine and all but when it goes as deep as we have had to go it makes it very tough. This ended up being a matchup we didn't need in a game needed very badly and NY took advantage of what they had.


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#19 Posted : Monday, November 18, 2013 11:01:00 AM(UTC)

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Plus JPP played. That guy is a game changer.
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#20 Posted : Monday, November 18, 2013 11:52:00 AM(UTC)

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warhawk said: Go to Quoted Post
It doesn't help the preparation when Shields is a last minute scratch and he was to take on Cruz. Hyde's speed vs. Shields is no contest.
They have guys beat up that don't even practice all week and then this? The "next man up" thing is fine and all but when it goes as deep as we have had to go it makes it very tough. This ended up being a matchup we didn't need in a game needed very badly and NY took advantage of what they had.




Shields was out this week. But they've been looking like Keystone Kops for at least 3 weeks.
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#21 Posted : Monday, November 18, 2013 1:14:05 PM(UTC)

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warhawk said: Go to Quoted Post
It doesn't help the preparation when Shields is a last minute scratch and he was to take on Cruz. Hyde's speed vs. Shields is no contest.
They have guys beat up that don't even practice all week and then this? The "next man up" thing is fine and all but when it goes as deep as we have had to go it makes it very tough. This ended up being a matchup we didn't need in a game needed very badly and NY took advantage of what they had.




True. The Giants took advantage of Shields being out. But, I was speaking more to the 3 losses in a row, and the 5 losses on the season. All of them could have been avoided. All of them winnable games. We just didn't give our best efforts, both players and coaches.

When coaches fail, there is a much larger problem. 12 men on the field, TWICE? wow. Our OL didn't show up to run block, and our DL didn't show up to stop the run.

This was an opportunity for Dom Capers to pick up the slack. Finally, after suffering two losses in a row. I don't care if Sam Shields is out, they have to account for Cruz no matter what. That did not happen. We had 4 sacks and 8 tackles for loss, and still couldn't measure up. Goal-line defense was a sieve on the 4th and 1 play. We give up 5…

Now, the defense did do some things well. Williams had a great pick. Jones made some plays, and led our team in tackles with 11. Having said that, we still saw some plays that he missed on with shoddy tackling, along with players like Burnett, Hawk and Matthews blowing assignments in coverage. Our scheme defensively was not looking like it was going to win the day. Not at all.

Being a team game, the blame can't lie soley with Capers. Our run blocking was atrocious. What the hell was that? Our coverage on STs completely stunk, with 67 yds on 3 returns, the killer being that single punt return for 34.

Add to that, three giant nails in the coffin with the 3 picks. At no time in this 3 game stretch did we look like we were ready to win a game, like we had an attitude that we WOULD win. Biggest disappointment to me was our piss poor run blocking. I know they stacked 8 in the box, but it was just 8. It wasn't 9, and our intentions always looked predictable, run or pass. Mike McCarthy did not game plan this well. Neither did Dom Capers. Neither did Shawn Slocum. Calling a fake on 4th and 7? A desperate move. And that is how GB looked, all three weeks. Players not in the right position, lining up wrong, coverage lapses, etc. It goes on and on.

And, you're right, we have guys beat up, injured, who don't practice all week, and this is what we see. What happened to addressing player availability, and the overall health of the team? What happened with that? This is the 4th year in a row with injuries being a major problem on our team.

I have a hamstring injury just having to watch this shit.
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#22 Posted : Monday, November 18, 2013 1:44:24 PM(UTC)

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play2win said: Go to Quoted Post
5 losses, and each game could have been won by the Packers.

This is some very uninspired play and coaching we are seeing from most on the Packers football team. I'm shocked at the unnecessary penalties. 12 men on the field, illegal formations, personal fouls, etc. We've seen them all through these 5 losses. That is poor preparation.

Granted, we've suffered an inordinate number of key injuries, but other teams have had to deal with those as well. I'm not sure why, after the last two or three years of high injury totals, and this past offseason supposedly being dedicated to eliminating those and having an emphasis on player availability, we still find ourselves in this same position. WTF???

Again, poor preparation.

The one player who showed up, displaying incredible professionalism in a hostile NY environment, Tramon Williams, gets little respect from many fans. I hope he keeps it up, and that others will follow his example. I guess I would add Jordy Nelson to Williams, as another player who really has shown up with the goods. That's pretty much it.

We are going to need to essentially win out, and we will need a lot of luck, professionalism, and focus to accomplish this. We are not that far away, because we should have been able to win all of the games we lost. Yet, somehow we are. This team is not looking prepared, focused, nor ready to take on the challenges ahead to win. Far too many players making major mistakes.

EVERYONE on this Packers team has got to turn this around if we are to win the division. Players and coaches alike.


Surprised no one is giving Matthews credit, I thought he played a hell of a game.
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#23 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 3:28:09 PM(UTC)

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I clicked "2" for page 2 of this thread, and it went back to the home page of "Let's Talk ...... " - very strange.

I remember when Rodgers was hurt, and at least one article said he would miss 3 games - including the Vikings - after the Bears game where it happened. I was thinking and calculating then that we actually could lose those 3 games and still have a chance. Then Tolzien came in at QB, and suddenly the games seemed winnable. For sure, the Vikings game still is, but even if we lose, we aren't out of it.

Yeah, we likely would be 2 games behind the Lions and Bears, but that decreases to one game if Rodgers is back and we beat both. We would clearly have the tiebreaker over the Lions, and almost certainly have a better division record that the Bears - the second tiebreaker, I think. I would bet money after looking ahead at the schedules that the Lions and Bears will at least lose one more in addition to their Packers games.

So hell yeah we have a chance even if we lose to the Vikings, and a strong chance if beat them. The must win game is thanksgiving against the Lions, and I think we see Aaron Rodgers for that one. Actually, even that game could be lost if we beat the Vikings, we just can't lose both.
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#24 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 3:40:42 PM(UTC)

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I clicked "2" for page 2 of this thread, and it went back to the home page of "Let's Talk ...... " - very strange.


same.
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#25 Posted : Monday, November 25, 2013 6:34:59 AM(UTC)

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If the Packers win out, the division is theirs, even if Bears win and Lions with their other games.

The Packers control their own destiny!







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I clicked "2" for page 2 of this thread, and it went back to the home page of "Let's Talk ...... " - very strange.


Fixed.





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#26 Posted : Monday, November 25, 2013 7:11:56 AM(UTC)

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If the Packers win out, the division is theirs, even if Bears win and Lions with their other games.

The Packers control their own destiny!



I freaking LOVE IT!!!!! Unbelievable. Also, I believe both the Lions and Bears played their most beatable opponents yesterday in the Bucs and Rams. I do see them both taking on at least one more loss each the rest of the way, maybe two, or more:

Bears:
@MIN
DAL
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GB

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GB
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BAL
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#27 Posted : Monday, December 2, 2013 7:19:11 AM(UTC)

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The What If department ...

Packers reward for winning third seed in the NFC playoffs—if that’s where the Packers end up —would be one of the most rugged roads to the Super Bowl ever.

Consider this possible slate: a Wild Card home game against San Francisco, a divisional game at New Orleans, a championship game at Seattle. Who survives that?
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#28 Posted : Monday, December 2, 2013 7:30:45 AM(UTC)

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REVENGE against the Niners - finally getting it right against Kaepernick who inexplicably doesn't seem as good this year;

A shoot out in New Orleans - been there done that and came out ahead, why not again?;

Super Revenge against Seattle - I seem to detect a slight downtrend this season for them, and I think we beat them;

All of this is contingent on getting Aaron Rodgers back and not getting him re-injured, though.
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The What If department ...

Packers reward for winning third seed in the NFC playoffs—if that’s where the Packers end up —would be one of the most rugged roads to the Super Bowl ever.

Consider this possible slate: a Wild Card home game against San Francisco, a divisional game at New Orleans, a championship game at Seattle. Who survives that?


We're starting to get guys back. We got Clay, then we got Neal, Perry and Jolly. Hopefully Cobb will be back by January, if we stop shitting ourselves.
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Packers could actually win the division with 8 - 7 - 1 record lol ... wow
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