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Online MintBaconDrivel  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, November 27, 2013 3:41:17 PM(UTC)
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As I just wrote an article on what the backup quarterback plan should be for next year, especially given it's near disastrous results, I thought to myself, 'What about the Green Bay Packers' defense? What about the coach for next year?' Do not take this as a call for Dom Capers' head. While
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, November 27, 2013 3:46:10 PM(UTC)
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I hope Capers is fired, I just don't see it coming.

I'm based on just one game: San Francisco, with all the time in the world to plan the game I can't accept what happened, specially after seeing how Kapernick played against the other teams.

I would like to see Kevin Greene step up to DC, he seems to be able to get most of his players.

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#3 Posted : Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:28:48 PM(UTC)
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Capers really should have been gone before this year. Assuming there is an ounce of talent on the defensive roster, I really cannot imagine the D doing worse under anyone else. Our mistakes are always so costly.

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Online Mucky Tundra  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:46:55 PM(UTC)
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Should Dom Capers be the Green Bay Packers defensive coordinator in 2014?

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Offline Gaycandybacon  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:49:52 PM(UTC)
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If your defense has declined this bad from last year, if your defense has been inconsistent as f*ck for the last 3 years, why would you bring him back? I don't get it if they bring him back.. Even if it is the players, we need to change something. If something's broke, by all means try to fix it.. Don't keep breaking it.
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Offline hardrocker950  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, November 27, 2013 8:07:13 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb Go to Quoted Post
Capers really should have been gone before this year. Assuming there is an ounce of talent on the defensive roster, I really cannot imagine the D doing else under anyone else. Our mistakes are always so costly.


Agreed. I know we don't have Seattle's secondary - but it is hard to imagine that they are as bad as they look this year. I don't claim to be an NFL caliber coach/staff member, but I do have experience playing safety - and from what I have seen, their coverage schemes are being played wrong, or the guys working the playcalling are dropping the ball.

It is disturbing how many potential turnovers they have dropped - many of which could have been caught by average Joe. Maybe James Jones should share his secret with them - remember how buttery his hands used to be?

Some of the problems are indeed on Capers, but others can be blamed on the guys on the field and coaching staff. If I was a DB coach - I would be breathing fire! My point being that Dom is high on the blame list, but I don't think simply replacing him is going to fix everything - there are other staff members that need a boot in their ass.
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Offline DarkaneRules  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, November 27, 2013 8:19:20 PM(UTC)
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I'm in the minority, at least for now, because at this moment in time I am not in the fire Dom group.
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Offline hardrocker950  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:52:16 PM(UTC)
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I'm in the minority, at least for now, because at this moment in time I am not in the fire Dom group.


I am leaning toward getting a new DC, but I can see why some want him to stay. Considering the endless injuries have plagued us the past couple of years, it makes things much more difficult for all of the staff. I suppose we would have more to go by if we had a better group at safety.

The bottom line is something has to change. Right now our secondary is the lauging stock of the NFL.
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#9 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 3:17:18 AM(UTC)
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Injuries haven't helped, but I just see a unit which lacks leadership and confidence. I personally would like to see a Coordinator on the sideline who can motivate the troops when needed. Without Rodgers putting up 30 this group can't get it done. I still say the big mistake was not properly addressing the Safety position when we lost Collins. Maybe the value was not there or they thought the loss could be solved in-house, but our Safety play has been terrible and the deep middle-of-the-field catches are getting painful to watch. It is funny to see that we lead the league in sacks, but we must also lead the league in giving up 1st downs on 3rd and 10+ yards because it doesn't seem to matter that we move the team back when we constantly give up big plays over the middle.
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#10 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 7:46:58 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla Go to Quoted Post
Injuries haven't helped, but I just see a unit which lacks leadership and confidence. I personally would like to see a Coordinator on the sideline who can motivate the troops when needed. Without Rodgers putting up 30 this group can't get it done. I still say the big mistake was not properly addressing the Safety position when we lost Collins. Maybe the value was not there or they thought the loss could be solved in-house, but our Safety play has been terrible and the deep middle-of-the-field catches are getting painful to watch. It is funny to see that we lead the league in sacks, but we must also lead the league in giving up 1st downs on 3rd and 10+ yards because it doesn't seem to matter that we move the team back when we constantly give up big plays over the middle.


Nice to see we're getting sacks, but we're NOT getting INTs.

The problem I have with Dom is that the guys don't know who to cover. And the DL haven't been maintaining their gaps. I mean get your sh*t together dude. Season's been on the brink for weeks.

And why hasn't Hyde gotten any snaps at S? Is Richardson the answer? Banjo? Find someone who can play.
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#11 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 7:57:33 AM(UTC)
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And I am sure you guys know this but try to keep in mind that just because a guy is coached to do something doesn't mean they don't have something that gets in the way of that. Some dudes don't have it, and if that is the case, that goes back to talent evaluation and getting the right guys.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 8:24:33 AM(UTC)
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Getting a new Defensive Coordinator would undoubtedly mean getting a whole new defensive philosophy. Capers uses finesse and trickery - I would contend he does that out of necessity because of the weakness of Packer defensive personnel. He custom designs schemes for whoever we are up against. Sometimes it works better than others. When Aaron Rodgers is there, his D didn't need to be great because we could outscore just about anybody just about anytime. Other teams would have to play catch up, which made his schemes even tougher to crack.

Is that what we want/need? And by "we", I mean primarily Mike McCarthy and TT? My guess is yes.

Two things we DON'T need: 1. Keep the type of D and get rid of the genius of that D. 2. Get some Rah Rah WWE type loud mouth who substitutes being fired up for brains. (hell yeah I mean Kevin Greene)

It wouldn't bother me to get a new DC, although I think it is better to keep Capers. Just make sure the prospective new guy has intelligence and experience to deal with whatever situation he needs to deal with.
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Offline El3ment12  
#13 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 8:38:39 AM(UTC)
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In 2010 our D was continuously put in situations where they had to step up, and they did. After watching the San Fran game last year, 2010 seemed like an eternity ago.
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#14 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:14:19 AM(UTC)
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Vic Ketchmen just said on pregame that PLAYERS ARE REPEATEDLY IN POSITION TO MAKE THE PLAY, BUT THEY JUST GET WHIPPED.

What the f*ck is he looking at?

What a weaselly little puke. Paid by the team to say good things about the coaches. Shut your whiny little voice, f*cking little pos. lol
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#15 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:20:50 AM(UTC)
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He's right. I trust him. Been covering the game a long time.
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