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Offline Zero2Cool  
#16 Posted : Sunday, December 22, 2013 9:30:14 PM(UTC)

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texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
WHAT do you guys see in Sean Richardson?


Do you have a reading problem or something? I know I have answered this and yet you continue pound this repeatedly as if Richardson is garbage. Here, I'll repeat what I and others have said again. Please pay attention this time.

Sean Richardson is bigger and faster than the other Safeties. Richardson is a SURE tackler. Richardson always seems to be around the ball and is getting involved on each play. Richardson today had two tackles for a loss.

Adding to what else we "see" ... its more of what we DO NOT SEE, which is Richardson screwing up multiple times a game resulting in big plays for the enemy.


THAT IS WHAT WE FOOKING SEE!!
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Offline Wade  
#17 Posted : Monday, December 23, 2013 5:11:27 AM(UTC)

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sschind said: Go to Quoted Post
You had better get the cough checked out. The last time I looked only one of those guys was still on the roster.



I think the poster's coughing was to emphasize that each of those players was on the roster too long.



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#18 Posted : Monday, December 23, 2013 5:30:56 AM(UTC)

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I don't understand why Jennings is still starting. I'm not convinced that Richardson is the answer. I'm not convinced the answer is on the Packers team right now. But I do think they ought to be giving Richardson the reps; he hasn't been back long enough yet to give up on him.

I have no idea why Brad Jones is still starting, and why he doesn't lose more reps to Lattimore. Lattimore may not be the answer. But how anyone can think Jones is the answer is beyond me.

I have no absolutely no clue why Raji is still starting. I'm not convinced that the answer is on the Packers team right now, but people who have played better than Raji are on the team. I don't know what defensive lineman currently on the team who hasn't played better than Raji. I wouldn't have Raji on the field except on plays that are really obvious passing plays (3rd and 20, say).

The real problem, of course, isn't Jennings or Jones or even Raji. It's the fact that the Packers right now are giving reps to all three at the same time. Any team will have a weak link they need to compensate for. But how do you compensate for three weak links? You can't. You can only hope that you play against offenses that have too many weak links of their own.

The kind of offenses that playoff teams rarely have.



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#19 Posted : Monday, December 23, 2013 7:52:28 AM(UTC)

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Gaycandybacon said: Go to Quoted Post
He's a good run defender, but that TD he gave up was pretty bad. Seems like he just froze a bit. If he cleans up his coverage I think he could be legit.


There was really little he could do on that play. It is an option route for the receiver, if he is given room at the front of the end zone, he sets up as he did. If the DB plays the goal line, the receiver continues past for a throw into the back of the endzone.
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#20 Posted : Monday, December 23, 2013 7:55:07 AM(UTC)

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The problem in my opinion is both Safety positions. I do think Sean Richardson is an upgrade over MD Jennings. No question, although, I would like to see more from him in coverage, being more on the ball and making more plays. The sample we've seen from Richardson is quite small. I'd like to see him with more PDs and a couple of INTs. Seems a willing, sound open field tackler though.

The bigger problem seems to be Morgan Burnett. He may be as big of a problem for this D as is MD Jennings. His confidence seems to be waning significantly, and he is not making the plays we have been expecting him to make. He is the guy we've been looking to add to, but now he seems to be performing at a much lower level, adding to the chaos we've seen in our secondary. Big whiffs on open field tackles, and zero INTs. That is just not getting the job done. I'm hoping he turns this around. We will need better play from him if we hope to make the playoffs, and to advance if we get there.

If I were Ted this offseason, I would add two safeties to try to get this situation rectified.
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#21 Posted : Wednesday, December 25, 2013 3:02:29 PM(UTC)

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sschind said: Go to Quoted Post
You had better get the cough checked out. The last time I looked only one of those guys was still on the roster.



The point is,

They were on the roster longer than they should have been.
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#22 Posted : Wednesday, December 25, 2013 3:52:06 PM(UTC)

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Burnett I think wont ever be a superstar but I think hell be a quality starter with somebody halfway competent starting next to him and maybe a decent consistent pass rush.
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#23 Posted : Wednesday, December 25, 2013 4:29:47 PM(UTC)

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Burnett I think wont ever be a superstar but I think hell be a quality starter with somebody halfway competent starting next to him and maybe a decent consistent pass rush.


That is the hope.

He has played well in the past, and has struggled in the past with shit suckage across from him.
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#24 Posted : Wednesday, December 25, 2013 4:44:32 PM(UTC)

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Laser Gunns said: Go to Quoted Post
The point is,

They were on the roster longer than they should have been.


I know what your point was. My point was I don't necessarily agree. Maybe not with these guys in particular (I don't agree with you on Bush for sure) but with your premise in general. How long do you propose to give a guy a chance to develop? If he is not starter quality within 1 season get rid of him? If you look at every team you will see players that some fans think should have been gone long before they were released. Its a fact of the game.
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#25 Posted : Thursday, December 26, 2013 9:40:32 AM(UTC)

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It took Nick Collins a while to become the Nick Collins we all knew as one of the best safeties in the NFL. His career numbers are somewhat similar to Morgan Burnett's:
http://www.nfl.com/playe...lins/2506390/careerstats
http://www.nfl.com/playe...anburnett/496727/profile

Both had great 2nd seasons, and dropped a bit in their 3rd seasons. Collins' 4th, 5th and 6th seasons were incredible. Burnett's 4th, not so much.

Burnett has suffered from not having a quality Safety opposite him in our D, along with some questionable play from our DL for a couple of seasons. His 4th season should be better, but MD Jennings has really fallen off, his play going south rather than north in his development. I think starting Sean Richardson would certainly help. It can't hurt.
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#26 Posted : Tuesday, January 7, 2014 2:03:58 PM(UTC)

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texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
WHAT do you guys see in Sean Richardson?


What's that? Aaron Rodgers mentioned him?? Hmmm

Aaron Rodgers said:
We have a lot of things that are setting up to be really good for a long time. A lot of really good young players with Sam (Shields), Micah Hyde, Casey (Hayward), when Casey comes back (from a hamstring injury) and Morgan Burnett and Sean Richardson, and veteran guys playing well, A.J. (Hawk) had his best season, Clay (Matthews), (Ryan) Pickett, (B.J.) Raji, Johnny Jolly coming back.


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#27 Posted : Monday, July 28, 2014 7:59:38 AM(UTC)

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texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
WHAT do you guys see in Sean Richardson? Granted, Jennings has mostly played like shit, but it seems like Richardson misses tackles more than he should too, and on his best day, he's a liability in coverage.



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#28 Posted : Monday, July 28, 2014 8:41:01 AM(UTC)

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[zipmouth]


Heh I think it was the first day (or yesterday) had Banjo taking more reps with first/second team. [boxing]
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#29 Posted : Monday, July 28, 2014 9:35:34 AM(UTC)

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Heh I think it was the first day (or yesterday) had Banjo taking more reps with first/second team. [boxing]


That's to hide our true intent to start Richardson. Secret weapon. ;p
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#30 Posted : Monday, July 28, 2014 9:40:30 AM(UTC)

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I don't see much in Sean Richardson beyond a decent in the box safety with poor to average at best cover skills. A very good defensive coordinator could probably creatively scheme and make it work, but good quarterbacks would easily expose him, imo. Especially without a top-flight free safety to cover for his mistakes.

I think Burnett, Hyde, and Clinton-Dix are better options in the long run than Richardson. I think Banjo is also better in coverage. Richardson seems like a #4 or #3 type safety, at best. Decent depth, but still not a very good player.
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