buckeyepackfan
10 years ago

It doesn't matter to me if Hawk breaks the all time tackling record or not. I can live with it either way. How are buckeye's "stats solid" when he doesn't even provide any? He just says some numbers but doesn't know where they came from. He doesn't know if the numbers include the post season games or not.

While I go the the Packers site and give you their numbers for Hawk. And verified them at ESPN, CBS and today FOX. By the way FOX shows that Hawk has 39 post season tackles. link  That brings his total to 870 which is still a long way from 1020. I looked fro John's year by year break down at all the reliable sources like NFL reference.com and there are none. The only place I see any tackle info for him is the Packer record book. 870 still doesn't put him in the top 5. And the tackles have only been kept since 1975. So anyone who played prior to that does not count. A dubious record at best.

In the past professional teams keep regular season and post season records separate. Unlike college they don't commingle them as they know some teams and players are in the post season more often than others.

All I am asking is for clarification and proof. I get a reply he thinks it is true but has no source or links to verify. It seems that buckeye's "stats" are not solid at this time.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I want to make something clear here, I was just trying to provide you the information that was tweeted a couple of weeks ago, I do believe it was nerdman who passed it on in Live chat.
Then last week when Hawk was being interviewed on The NFL channel, the reporter(don't know his name), brought up the subject with A.J.
When I saw your post, I was just trying to pass along to you the info. that I had heard.

I have no clue where to find the numbers or how they have been tabulated through hawks career. I brought up the playoff scenario, only because of the number difference you posted about.

I have quit 2 things on this forum.

#1 posting or talking about any type of stat when it comes to football, because it has been made perfectly clear to me that stats are worthless information.

#2 Supporting any current or past Packer player, because, any positive point of view gets me accused of looking at the world through my Green and Gold glasses and is frowned upon.

So WPR you are right, my numbers are not valid, because I did not supply any numbers.
Or will I supply any numbers.

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
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10 years ago
buckeye my friend, I too have been so upset with other members of the board that I wasn't going to do something ever again (typically come back here again.) Don't let them ruin your day. If you like supporting players be it Hawk or others then by all means do so. If you like posting statistics I wish you would. I love looking at the hard cold numbers. It is true some numbers to paint the whole picture but some do. I was actually counting on you to help me out with this post because what we hear and what the numbers show don't add up. I don't know why.

My last post wasn't meant to criticize you merely to point out to others that you didn't have solid numbers the ones I was seeing at all the various websites were solid. One of the things I am glad to read from you is that there is this rumbling about Hawk closing in on the record. For several reasons. First I did not hear the tv dude wrong. When I looked at the stats I was beginning to wonder. Second it does validate Hawk to some degree. He may not be the most beloved Packer but he has meant something to the team. Whether or not he is worthy of his draft position or his pay is a different matter and subject to personal opinion. That he has been fairly successful in his job should not be. That some or all would like for him to have been better over the past 8 years is obvious. I would like Brett, Aaron and just about every single player to have been better than what they were.
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Zero2Cool
10 years ago

I have quit 2 things on this forum.

#1 posting or talking about any type of stat when it comes to football, because it has been made perfectly clear to me that stats are worthless information.

#2 Supporting any current or past Packer player, because, any positive point of view gets me accused of looking at the world through my Green and Gold glasses and is frowned upon.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



I never knew Buckeye's were quitters. I thought they stood their ground and stood proud. Learn something knew everyday.

My advice, buck up buttercup and don't let anyone dictate what you contribute to the site. Also, understand things you say will not be agreed upon or liked by everyone here. THAT fact is what makes this place great. Different ideas, different thoughts, different mindsets, ... different.

If we all banged the same drum over and over again ... lets not think of what would happen.


Oh and btw A.J. Hawk sucks!!!!!
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sschind
10 years ago

I never knew Buckeye's were quitters. I thought they stood their ground and stood proud. Learn something knew everyday.

My advice, buck up buttercup and don't let anyone dictate what you contribute to the site. Also, understand things you say will not be agreed upon or liked by everyone here. THAT fact is what makes this place great. Different ideas, different thoughts, different mindsets, ... different.

If we all banged the same drum over and over again ... lets not think of what would happen.


Oh and btw A.J. Hawk sucks!!!!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I don't know why but when I first got here I was lead to believe that we were all going to get free bacon and that is what made this place great.

It must have been a misunderstanding. That other stuff is good though too.

MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone

macbob
10 years ago

I don't know why but when I first got here I was lead to believe that we were all going to get free bacon and that is what made this place great.

It must have been a misunderstanding. That other stuff is good though too.

MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone

Originally Posted by: sschind 



ARRRRGGGHHHH! Now you've made me hungry.

But seriously, Zero--I support sschind's idea--I think free bacon would be a tremendous addition to the site.


MERRY CHRISTMAS!

The Bears and the Lions already gave us our presents last weekend... 😆

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