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User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#21 Posted : Monday, December 23, 2013 9:06:04 PM(UTC)
I get to see him play more down here than I get to see the Packers. He does a lot of great things, and he makes a lot of glaring blunders - less this season than any in the past, I think.

There is temptation to compare Romo's situation to Rodgers, but it's fairly significantly different. Unlike a collarbone, a herniated disk in the back really could be career threatening or worse. Just the same, I find it ironic or whatever the right word is, that Romo finished out the game after his injury, completing the drive with several key passes, and won the game. Then when the God damned medical staff was able to get their mitts on him, it was decided (apparently) that he is out for the season - although his coach claims to be holding out hope that he can still play.

The other comparison (or more accurately, contrast) is that Jerry Jones did a helluva lot better job of preparing for the worst case than Ted Thompson. On that same topic, Dallas has built a very credible D Line basically on the fly with a bunch of injuries since the season started - better than what we have, based on performance, and Dallas has put together an O Line that is far from the best in the league, but which gives Romo and Murray significantly more room to do the job than the Packer RBs and QBs have gotten over the past couple of years.

The much maligned Mr. Jones has done a LOT better job as a GM that the piece of crap we have - IMNHO.
DakotaT  
#22 Posted : Monday, December 23, 2013 9:39:09 PM(UTC)
texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
I get to see him play more down here than I get to see the Packers. He does a lot of great things, and he makes a lot of glaring blunders - less this season than any in the past, I think.

There is temptation to compare Romo's situation to Rodgers, but it's fairly significantly different. Unlike a collarbone, a herniated disk in the back really could be career threatening or worse. Just the same, I find it ironic or whatever the right word is, that Romo finished out the game after his injury, completing the drive with several key passes, and won the game. Then when the God damned medical staff was able to get their mitts on him, it was decided (apparently) that he is out for the season - although his coach claims to be holding out hope that he can still play.

The other comparison (or more accurately, contrast) is that Jerry Jones did a helluva lot better job of preparing for the worst case than Ted Thompson. On that same topic, Dallas has built a very credible D Line basically on the fly with a bunch of injuries since the season started - better than what we have, based on performance, and Dallas has put together an O Line that is far from the best in the league, but which gives Romo and Murray significantly more room to do the job than the Packer RBs and QBs have gotten over the past couple of years.

The much maligned Mr. Jones has done a LOT better job as a GM that the piece of crap we have - IMNHO.


Uhm, we've won two Lombardis since Jerruh bought his last one. Ah forget it, you won't rest until you get somebody to agree with your dumb ass. Most of the guys in here think Ted Thompson has done a good job.

wpr  
#23 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 7:15:02 AM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
Uhm, we've won two Lombardis since Jerruh bought his last one. Ah forget it, you won't rest until you get somebody to agree with your dumb ass. Most of the guys in here think Ted Thompson has done a good job.



I would take Ted in a heart beat over Jerry the Clown. And Romo is an average QB who plays for a major market team in the age of passing dominance due to NFL rules revisions.

If Romo played in Jacksonville or in the 60-70's no one who even know who he is.
User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#24 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 10:44:02 AM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
I would take Ted in a heart beat over Jerry the Clown. And Romo is an average QB who plays for a major market team in the age of passing dominance due to NFL rules revisions.

If Romo played in Jacksonville or in the 60-70's no one who even know who he is.


Thank you for that kernel of wisdom hahahaha. You couldn't be more right about your last paragraph because there was no NFL team even in Jacksonville in the 60-70s. Maybe you were thinking of the Sharks of the old WFL in the late 70s.

I'm not gonna particularly defend either Jones or Romo. The point is, no matter how much in denial a lot of people are around here, TED THOMPSON HAS BEEN A generally SHITTY GM.

User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#25 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:15:58 PM(UTC)
Latest News: Jerry Jones says there's a good chance Romo will play against the Eagles next week - if he gets "medical clearance" - that familiar bugaboo.

Prediction: Jones, seeing the harm wrought in Green Bay by an administrator lacking balls, will see to it Romo DOES get medical clearance - firing as many doctors as it takes to get one to clear him.
wpr  
#26 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 1:05:42 PM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
I would take Ted in a heart beat over Jerry the Clown. And Romo is an average QB who plays for a major market team in the age of passing dominance due to NFL rules revisions.

If Romo played in Jacksonville or in the 60-70's no one who even know who he is.


texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
Thank you for that kernel of wisdom hahahaha. You couldn't be more right about your last paragraph because there was no NFL team even in Jacksonville in the 60-70s. Maybe you were thinking of the Sharks of the old WFL in the late 70s.

I'm not gonna particularly defend either Jones or Romo. The point is, no matter how much in denial a lot of people are around here, TED THOMPSON HAS BEEN A generally SHITTY GM.



I know it is difficult for you to comprehend.

I said a major market team which Jacksonville is not.
Then I compared playing in the 60's or 70's to today's easier passer friendly rules.

NOT playing in Jacksonville in the 60's.

sschind  
#27 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 1:18:21 PM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
Uhm, we've won two Lombardis since Jerruh bought his last one. Ah forget it, you won't rest until you get somebody to agree with your dumb ass. Most of the guys in here think Ted Thompson has done a good job.



If agreeing with him would get him to stop I'd be tempted to take one for the team but I honestly don't think it would work so why be the martyr?


MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone

sschind  
#28 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 1:21:23 PM(UTC)
texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
Latest News: Jerry Jones says there's a good chance Romo will play against the Eagles next week - if he gets "medical clearance" - that familiar bugaboo.

Prediction: Jones, seeing the harm wrought in Green Bay by an administrator lacking balls, will see to it Romo DOES get medical clearance - firing as many doctors as it takes to get one to clear him.


And that makes him a better GM? Firing people who disagree with you just so you can have your way, even if your way may not be the right way? Whatever.

MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone

User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#29 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 3:04:38 PM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
I know it is difficult for you to comprehend.

I said a major market team which Jacksonville is not.
Then I compared playing in the 60's or 70's to today's easier passer friendly rules.

NOT playing in Jacksonville in the 60's.



hahahaha in that case, I guess there is no kernel of wisdom. WHY would Romo not be known if he played in Jacksonville - or some other small market like oh, let's see, Green Bay maybe? Granted, he ain't Aaron Rodgers, but the small market doesn't seem to do any harm to Russell Wilson who's no better and playing in a small market or Ben Roethlisberger or Joe Flacco or Tom Brady or Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck, all of whom play in pretty small markets. And I believe there were some pretty well known QBs back in the 60s and 70s too, which I don't really need to name.

Romo is not a top four QB, but for sure, he ranks somewhere between 5th and 10th.

And the main point was and is, TED THOMPSON HAS DONE A SHITTY JOB AS GM.
User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#30 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 3:15:38 PM(UTC)
sschind said: Go to Quoted Post
And that makes him a better GM? Firing people who disagree with you just so you can have your way, even if your way may not be the right way? Whatever.

MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone



I wouldn't say Jerry Jones ranks very high as a "GM", but I would say he is a lot better at it than Ted Thompson.

And yeah, if you have an arrogant hyper-cautious specialist whose decision you think is hurting the team, a good administrator would have the balls to get rid of him and hire somebody who with better judgment. I wouldn't expect the bunch of timid little followers in this forum to understand that kind of thinking, though.

wpr  
#31 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 3:46:18 PM(UTC)
texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
hahahaha in that case, I guess there is no kernel of wisdom. WHY would Romo not be known if he played in Jacksonville - or some other small market like oh, let's see, Green Bay maybe? Granted, he ain't Aaron Rodgers, but the small market doesn't seem to do any harm to Russell Wilson who's no better and playing in a small market or Ben Roethlisberger or Joe Flacco or Tom Brady or Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck, all of whom play in pretty small markets. And I believe there were some pretty well known QBs back in the 60s and 70s too, which I don't really need to name.

Romo is not a top four QB, but for sure, he ranks somewhere between 5th and 10th.

And the main point was and is, TED THOMPSON HAS DONE A SHITTY JOB AS GM.


The 5th-10th best QB's come and go all the time. Aaron may be in a small market but he is an extra ordinary QB as is Brady and Manning, Peyton that is. Over time people will more or less forget the Flacco's, Rothenberger's and Wilsons. Romo falls into that same group. He is nobody special. When he is put out to pasture there will be 3 others who can take his place.
User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#32 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:10:55 PM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
The 5th-10th best QB's come and go all the time. Aaron may be in a small market but he is an extra ordinary QB as is Brady and Manning, Peyton that is. Over time people will more or less forget the Flacco's, Rothenberger's and Wilsons. Romo falls into that same group. He is nobody special. When he is put out to pasture there will be 3 others who can take his place.


Uh ....... yes, if you water it down like that, I have to agree. What was the original point again?

I was just thinking, has there EVER been a better QB who went to high school in the state of Wisconsin?
dhazer  
#33 Posted : Wednesday, December 25, 2013 9:00:23 AM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
I would take Ted in a heart beat over Jerry the Clown. And Romo is an average QB who plays for a major market team in the age of passing dominance due to NFL rules revisions.

If Romo played in Jacksonville or in the 60-70's no one who even know who he is.


WPR that is a very bad exmple because what qb would look good in jacksonville? Also the only qb I believe that would be known back in the 60's and 70's I believe would be Big Ben or Peyton Manning. Ben because of his size would be able to handle the hits back then, you know before they made the qb position a pussy position. And I think Manning would be known because he calls his own plays now like they did back then.

steveishere  
#34 Posted : Thursday, December 26, 2013 11:56:11 AM(UTC)
How can dallas have a good defensive line when we all watched our supposedly complete shit offensive line dominate them. Not to mention that our shitty team beat their team without Rodgers and they had a healthy Romo.
wpr  
#35 Posted : Thursday, December 26, 2013 12:13:45 PM(UTC)
dhazer said: Go to Quoted Post
WPR that is a very bad exmple because what qb would look good in jacksonville? Also the only qb I believe that would be known back in the 60's and 70's I believe would be Big Ben or Peyton Manning. Ben because of his size would be able to handle the hits back then, you know before they made the qb position a pussy position. And I think Manning would be known because he calls his own plays now like they did back then.



well it does make my point which is Romo is average to slightly above average.

If he did not play in a large like Dallas OR
if he played in the days before the rules that favor QBs so much-



we would not even think about him.


The better QBs, like Rodgers have shown they can play in a small market and have a large audience/appeal. They can play with a poor OL and still succeed. But chose KC, Tampa, Cleveland, San Diego. Chose any small market you want. The point still remains which is if he played in for a small market team, 5 minutes after he hangs up his jock the world will have forgotten Romo. Because he played in Dallas it will take a little longer.
User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#36 Posted : Thursday, December 26, 2013 2:01:58 PM(UTC)
Four current QBs are clearly better: Rodgers, Brees. Brady, and P. Manning. I would put Romo near the top of the second tier, though: Romo, Luck, Wilson, Newton, maybe Kaepernick, Ryan, and Rivers. Did I leave anybody out?
wpr  
#37 Posted : Thursday, December 26, 2013 2:16:09 PM(UTC)
2nd tier qbs are not elite. Circumstance has placed Romo on a larger stage than other avg to a little above average players that's all.
User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#38 Posted : Thursday, December 26, 2013 3:57:48 PM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
2nd tier qbs are not elite. Circumstance has placed Romo on a larger stage than other avg to a little above average players that's all.


True, but he's got some pretty damn good company on that second tier, and arguably, Romo has done more than most of those others to make his own circumstances.

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