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Offline Rockmolder  
#1 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 1:13:06 PM(UTC)
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A week ago everyone on this forum was ecstatic that we beat the Bears, won the NFCN and just slipped into the play-offs.

One monday later and everyone is let down by the SF loss.

Of course you always play hard, play to win and all of that, but in hindsight, on the long run... I'm not really sure who won out in week 17.

Again, you always play hard, you can't predict what happens in the play-offs and you don't throw games, but we did give up 7 picks to one of our biggest rivals.

The difference between the 14th and the 21st pick is drafting a guy like Kouandjio, Nix or Hage or not getting any of those guys and falling into a part of the draft where there's no d-lineman worthy of a pick and a lot of OTs you have to take a gamble on like Sherrod or guys with lower ceilings like Bulaga.

What's the point of my story? Nothing big, really. Just that the Bears, in hindsight, won in week 17.
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Offline Pack93z  
#2 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 1:18:37 PM(UTC)
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While part of me concurs with your questioning... the economic impact that bringing a playoff game to GB probably outweighs those 7 picks.

Not to mention.. if you get in, you might get hot and have a chance. We are a and have been a banged up team most of the season... couple that with a defense that still has issues surrounding it.. probably not realistic to think a run to the SB was coming.

I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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Offline DakotaT  
#3 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 1:19:29 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Rockmolder Go to Quoted Post
A week ago everyone on this forum was ecstatic that we beat the Bears, won the NFCN and just slipped into the play-offs.

One monday later and everyone is let down by the SF loss.

Of course you always play hard, play to win and all of that, but in hindsight, on the long run... I'm not really sure who won out in week 17.

Again, you always play hard, you can't predict what happens in the play-offs and you don't throw games, but we did give up 7 picks to one of our biggest rivals.

The difference between the 14th and the 21st pick is drafting a guy like Kouandjio, Nix or Hage or not getting any of those guys and falling into a part of the draft where there's no d-lineman worthy of a pick and a lot of OTs you have to take a gamble on like Sherrod or guys with lower ceilings like Bulaga.

What's the point of my story? Nothing big, really. Just that the Bears, in hindsight, won in week 17.


Go to hell Rock. Big Grin I had the balls to bring this shit BEFORE the Bear game and got my chestnuts roasted by a bunch of doucebag assholes, figuratively speaking of course. Now you cowardice-like come in here after the playoff game and bring this up? I'm appalled and frankly you owe me an apology. Rolling On The Floor Laughing Rolling On The Floor Laughing Rolling On The Floor Laughing

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Offline steveishere  
#4 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 1:24:51 PM(UTC)
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People way overrate a few spots in the draft. No a few draft spots is not worth sitting at home for the playoffs. Good teams draft good players no matter where they are at in the draft. There are a shit ton of good players that will be available in the 7 rounds we are drafting we just have to find them.
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Offline Rockmolder  
#5 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 1:27:06 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Go to hell Rock. Big Grin I had the balls to bring this shit BEFORE the Bear game and got my chestnuts roasted by a bunch of doucebag assholes, figuratively speaking of course. Now you cowardice-like come in here after the playoff game and bring this up? I'm appalled and frankly you owe me an apology. Rolling On The Floor Laughing Rolling On The Floor Laughing Rolling On The Floor Laughing



What? You still come here to discuss the Packers, as well? It Wasn't Me
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Offline musccy  
#6 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 1:33:22 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
People way overrate a few spots in the draft. No a few draft spots is not worth sitting at home for the playoffs. Good teams draft good players no matter where they are at in the draft. There are a shit ton of good players that will be available in the 7 rounds we are drafting we just have to find them.


Agreed. Two of Seattle's probowlers in the secondary were selected in the 5th round. Collins, Jordy, Cobb were all 2nd rounders, CM3 was #26, below where the Packers are selecting this draft. I could go on, but it's the same story we all know.

Offline porky88  
#7 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 1:35:49 PM(UTC)
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I'll gladly give Chicago seven spots in the draft in exchange for the experience of watching Aaron Rodgers hit Randall Cobb on fourth-and-8. That's an all-time great Packer play.
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Offline RaiderPride  
#8 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 1:45:46 PM(UTC)
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I can understand your thinking... Losing in week 17 gives the Packers a better opportunity to pick the player highest on their draft board.

However.. There is as Pack93Z states the economic impact.. Great point.

Add to that..... Playoff week and atmosphere experience. For all of the kids this week the playoff atmosphere and experience they received is a big plus in 2014. If that experience helps them calm down, and focus better next year at the dance, it more than makes up for the drop on Draft Day.
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Offline cheeseheads123  
#9 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 1:46:43 PM(UTC)
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My view on this still hasn't changed. We won week 17 and we won this week.


Even if I already knew the outcome of this 49ers game it wouldn't change anything. I still couldn't go back to last week and root for Kuhn to miss that blitz pick up or for cobb to drop that game winner. Wow, the excitement on that game winner. Damn. It sucks that the season had to end so soon.


The Packers lost by inches against the 49ers. If they were to win that game this forum would of been feeling better than ever.
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Offline Dulak  
#10 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 1:54:58 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Rockmolder Go to Quoted Post
A week ago everyone on this forum was ecstatic that we beat the Bears, won the NFCN and just slipped into the play-offs.

One monday later and everyone is let down by the SF loss.

Of course you always play hard, play to win and all of that, but in hindsight, on the long run... I'm not really sure who won out in week 17.

Again, you always play hard, you can't predict what happens in the play-offs and you don't throw games, but we did give up 7 picks to one of our biggest rivals.

The difference between the 14th and the 21st pick is drafting a guy like Kouandjio, Nix or Hage or not getting any of those guys and falling into a part of the draft where there's no d-lineman worthy of a pick and a lot of OTs you have to take a gamble on like Sherrod or guys with lower ceilings like Bulaga.

What's the point of my story? Nothing big, really. Just that the Bears, in hindsight, won in week 17.


I think like myself ... a few more weeks of packers football just seems to make the winter just that little bit more bearable ... Now what do I have to amuse myself with?
and like others ... Ill trade 20slots in the draft to the bears for the 'chance' of our team to hoist the trophy.


Offline luigis  
#11 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 2:00:20 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RaiderPride Go to Quoted Post
I can understand your thinking... Losing in week 17 gives the Packers a better opportunity to pick the player highest on their draft board.

However.. There is as Pack93Z states the economic impact.. Great point.

Add to that..... Playoff week and atmosphere experience. For all of the kids this week the playoff atmosphere and experience they received is a big plus in 2014. If that experience helps them calm down, and focus better next year at the dance, it more than makes up for the drop on Draft Day.


Fully agree.
With al due respect the OP is an idiot.
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Offline texaspackerbacker  
#12 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 2:03:10 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Go to hell Rock. Big Grin I had the balls to bring this shit BEFORE the Bear game and got my chestnuts roasted by a bunch of doucebag assholes, figuratively speaking of course. Now you cowardice-like come in here after the playoff game and bring this up? I'm appalled and frankly you owe me an apology. Rolling On The Floor Laughing Rolling On The Floor Laughing Rolling On The Floor Laughing



I second the motion on the "go to hell" part. It's just as lame and half-assed now as it was when Dakota said it. He may have shit for brains, but you, Rock have shit for brains AND shit for balls.

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Offline Pack93z  
#13 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 2:03:32 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: luigis Go to Quoted Post
Fully agree.
With al due respect the OP is an idiot.


How the hell can that be with all due respect? Disagree with the post.. but it is far from idiotic.

Statements like this are typical of most message boards.. we are not a typical message board. Want to smack talk.. see the back alley.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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Offline Rockmolder  
#14 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 2:08:25 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: luigis Go to Quoted Post
Fully agree.
With al due respect the OP is an idiot.


Fair enough, my articulate friend.

I would like to, one more time, point out that I stated that this was in hindsight, after the 49ers loss and that I didn't want us to throw the game in week 17. Rodgers to Cobb was amazing and I would've loved to see us get hot in the play-offs like we did on our last SB run.

I do feel that there is quite a gap between pick 14 and 21, regardless of whether you can find some gems in the 2nd, 3rd or even the 7th round.

I have to admit that a big part of this is personal preference, as well. I'd rather watch the draft than 3 Packers games.
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Offline Zero2Cool  
#15 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 2:09:13 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: porky88 Go to Quoted Post
I'll gladly give Chicago seven spots in the draft in exchange for the experience of watching Aaron Rodgers hit Randall Cobb on fourth-and-8. That's an all-time great Packer play.


After reading his post the first time, I couldn't help think of my answer being "My girls won". Why? Because they got to attend a Packers Playoff game and it was their first ever Packers game. And yes, eliminating your rival ON THEIR FIELD in dramatic fashion? Schwing!


Originally Posted by: luigis Go to Quoted Post
Fully agree.
With al due respect the OP is an idiot.


We appreciate candor, but lets try to be respectful of the welcoming trend that everyone here has an opinion worth hearing, regardless if we ourselves feel it is "idiotic".
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Offline Rockmolder  
#16 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 2:11:04 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker Go to Quoted Post
I second the motion on the "go to hell" part. It's just as lame and half-assed now as it was when Dakota said it. He may have shit for brains, but you, Rock have shit for brains AND shit for balls.



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Offline cheeseheads123  
#17 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 2:19:24 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Rockmolder Go to Quoted Post
I do feel that there is quite a gap between pick 14 and 21


While this might be true, however those same players projected in the early teens could easily fall to us.
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#18 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 3:00:29 PM(UTC)
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The Bears have had earlier picks in 7 of the last 10 drafts. And we keep ending up picking after them year after year.
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#19 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 4:13:10 PM(UTC)
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I apologize for calling the OP an idiot.

I should have said his post seemed completely idiotic to me instead.

Seeing Cutler and the Bears cry and go home was priceless, I really don't care about when we pick in the draft.

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#20 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 5:47:58 PM(UTC)
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I won!!!!! I got to slap my jackass B-I-L around for another week. Had the bares won both games this year he would have been even more of a jerk that he normally is. In the end all I had to say is GB has been in the playoffs the last 5 years with a SB to show for themselves. HOW BOUT DEM BARES? They only made it once and GB eliminated them in one way or another 3 of the last 4 years.
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#21 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 6:03:07 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Rockmolder Go to Quoted Post
A week ago everyone on this forum was ecstatic that we beat the Bears, won the NFCN and just slipped into the play-offs.

One monday later and everyone is let down by the SF loss.

Of course you always play hard, play to win and all of that, but in hindsight, on the long run... I'm not really sure who won out in week 17.

Again, you always play hard, you can't predict what happens in the play-offs and you don't throw games, but we did give up 7 picks to one of our biggest rivals.

The difference between the 14th and the 21st pick is drafting a guy like Kouandjio, Nix or Hage or not getting any of those guys and falling into a part of the draft where there's no d-lineman worthy of a pick and a lot of OTs you have to take a gamble on like Sherrod or guys with lower ceilings like Bulaga.

What's the point of my story? Nothing big, really. Just that the Bears, in hindsight, won in week 17.


Thought about this a lot today. Went to lunch with a good friend and avid Bears fan. He asked where we were picking, and I had no idea. Somehow, I knew he knew the answer before he even asked me.

I'll take the real win. We will draft better again, and we will win, again. And, I'm a huge draft nut. Gimme the win and the bragging rights, especially with McClellan taking out Rodgers, and Rodgers coming back to clean the Bears clocks! Perfect!
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#22 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 6:06:35 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RaiderPride Go to Quoted Post
I can understand your thinking... Losing in week 17 gives the Packers a better opportunity to pick the player highest on their draft board.

However.. There is as Pack93Z states the economic impact.. Great point.

Add to that..... Playoff week and atmosphere experience. For all of the kids this week the playoff atmosphere and experience they received is a big plus in 2014. If that experience helps them calm down, and focus better next year at the dance, it more than makes up for the drop on Draft Day.


Another great point. That experience is precious.
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#23 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 7:07:06 PM(UTC)
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The day I concede the division title to a rival, for draft position of all things, feel free to kill me.

I'd rather watch us get spanked in the playoffs every year than to give up in the hopes a draft pick saves us.


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#24 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 7:28:09 PM(UTC)
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For the record, I was pretty disgusted with the self-shitting in the Bears game, even though we won.
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#25 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 7:43:50 PM(UTC)
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I've stated before that winning the division only to get embarrassed in the first round or two of the playoffs wouldn't make me feel any better than not winning the division, really. However, the Packers didn't get embarrassed in the playoffs. They got beat. They were beaten by a better team that is more talented, healthier, more physical, and better coached, but they could have won the game if they made just a few more plays. It's obviously not ideal, and the Packers have some serious concerns to address to become a true contender again, but they put up a decent fight. That's all average-to-good teams can really hope for against the top teams in the league. Until the Packers at least seriously address a couple of their major weaknesses, I just don't see them as being anything more than good. Fortunately, things could turn around pretty quickly, or they could remain about the same. It all depends on how the off season plays out, in addition to player health during the season.
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