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Offline beast  
#11 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 4:25:26 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: luigis Go to Quoted Post
I don't see Jonathan Franklin making the roster next year regardless of what happens with Starks and Harris.


Why not? He showed a lot of potential in the Bengals game tons of quickly and showed he was willing to pass block and was surprising good at it. He's the 3rd down back of Packers future (I think).

It will be like having a second Cobb but this one stays in the back field. Heck after Franklin gets Rb down I wouldn't mind if they also taught him the slot position.
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#12 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 5:24:01 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: beast Go to Quoted Post
Why not? He showed a lot of potential in the Bengals game tons of quickly and showed he was willing to pass block and was surprising good at it. He's the 3rd down back of Packers future (I think).

It will be like having a second Cobb but this one stays in the back field. Heck after Franklin gets Rb down I wouldn't mind if they also taught him the slot position.


I hope to be (very) wrong but I don't see Franklin playing in the NFL.
Besides that game against the Bengals the coaches didn't trust him to be in the field when he was healthy.
I think he played very soft but as I said before I would love to be wrong.
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#13 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 5:38:00 PM(UTC)
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Franklin hasn't been through a full offseason of conditioning, etc yet. I'm withholding judgment until after training camp.

I would be surprised, though, if we draft a running back again this year...
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#14 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 5:45:27 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: macbob Go to Quoted Post
Franklin hasn't been through a full offseason of conditioning, etc yet. I'm withholding judgment until after training camp.

I would be surprised, though, if we draft a running back again this year...


Franklin and Lacy had the same offseason, conditioning, etc. So I would say there's a lot to judge from what we have seen so far.
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#15 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 7:10:37 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: luigis Go to Quoted Post
Franklin and Lacy had the same offseason, conditioning, etc. So I would say there's a lot to judge from what we have seen so far.


I hope you realize that comparison is pretty off as there is a lot of difference between them...

Lacy was already a complete back where Franklin is project for the coaches and they haven't had a full offseason with him yet.

Lacy is a physical back already and some said he would of been a 1st round pick if there was no injury concerns. Where Franklin is a speed/quickness back where he has to get used to more physicalness and used to having defenses faster... where that doesn't matter with Lacy but he's used to not using only his speed/quickness but some physical as well.


Some guys are going to need little adjustments into the NFL where others are going to need a lot.
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#16 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 7:13:22 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: beast Go to Quoted Post
I hope you realize that comparison is pretty off as there is a lot of difference between them...

Lacy was already a complete back where Franklin is project for the coaches and they haven't had a full offseason with him yet.

Lacy is a physical back already and some said he would of been a 1st round pick if there was no injury concerns. Where Franklin is a speed/quickness back where he has to get used to more physicalness and used to having defenses faster... where that doesn't matter with Lacy but he's used to not using only his speed/quickness but some physical as well.


Some guys are going to need little adjustments into the NFL where others are going to need a lot.


Yeah, that was a silly comparison.

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#17 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 7:23:24 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: luigis Go to Quoted Post
Lacy, Harris and Starks will be a very good group of RBs.

I don't see Jonathan Franklin making the roster next year regardless of what happens with Starks and Harris.



I see Franklin as the next Tony Dorsett, assuming his neck injury isn't career ending.

I don't think this staff likes Starks, for whatever reason. I love Starks, but the coaches don't seem to think very highly of him imo.
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#18 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2014 11:51:04 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
I see Franklin as the next Tony Dorsett, assuming his neck injury isn't career ending.

I don't think this staff likes Starks, for whatever reason. I love Starks, but the coaches don't seem to think very highly of him imo.


I'm not sure I agree about them not liking Starks but it looks like they may be higher on Harris. Personally, if it came down to the two, I'd rather see them cut Harris and give Starks whatever money they would be paying him. It may not be enough to make a difference but anyone who says they would rather have Harris over Starks as the #2 man given what Starks has done this year is an idiot. I'm talking from a position aspect and not from a salary cap aspect of course. I'd much rather have Lacy, Starks, Franklin over Lacy, Harris, Franklin even if it mean an extra million or 2 a year.
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, January 7, 2014 6:52:58 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: sschind Go to Quoted Post
I'm not sure I agree about them not liking Starks but it looks like they may be higher on Harris. Personally, if it came down to the two, I'd rather see them cut Harris and give Starks whatever money they would be paying him. It may not be enough to make a difference but anyone who says they would rather have Harris over Starks as the #2 man given what Starks has done this year is an idiot. I'm talking from a position aspect and not from a salary cap aspect of course. I'd much rather have Lacy, Starks, Franklin over Lacy, Harris, Franklin even if it mean an extra million or 2 a year.


If Harris can really be a Sproles type guy, that's awesome. I just have a small body of work to go on.

Dude needs to prove it to me. Unlike Starks. I feel like we know what we have with him. Could want to start somewhere tho.
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#20 Posted : Tuesday, January 7, 2014 10:37:08 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
If Harris can really be a Sproles type guy, that's awesome. I just have a small body of work to go on.

Dude needs to prove it to me. Unlike Starks. I feel like we know what we have with him. Could want to start somewhere tho.


Exactly. Starks should have erased most of if not all of the doubt people had about him this year. He was injured for a few games so that doubt may still linger but any doubts about his ability should be gone.

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