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Offline packerfanoutwest  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, January 8, 2014 5:41:02 AM(UTC)
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Just because he was the coach when the Pack won their last SB? None of the media will hold his feet to the fire other than Cheesehead TV. His play calling sucks, he doesn't know how to challenge plays very well. I have more to say, but I'll see how this topic goes.
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packerfanoutwest said: Go to Quoted Post
Just because he was the coach when the Pack won their last SB? None of the media will hold his feet to the fire other than Cheesehead TV. His play calling sucks, he doesn't know how to challenge plays very well. I have more to say, but I'll see how this topic goes.


Maybe you should spend less time reading a shock you website like Cheesehead TV and spend more time reading intelligent websites like PackersHome. Where we have bemoaned many things about Mike McCarthy. Go ahead, use the search, shouldn't be too hard to find complaints. :)
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, January 8, 2014 5:55:51 AM(UTC)
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Never has his team ready to play. Constant lulls. They never show up for a full 60.

Abandons the run. Stat whores with Aaron. More concerned about using "multiple formations and personnel groupings to confuse defenses" than he is with calling plays. Excruciatingly predictable play calling. Low percentage plays.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, January 8, 2014 8:18:22 AM(UTC)
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Mike McCarthy is basically Marty Schottenheimer Jr. Always getting to the playoffs, not doing a lot when there.
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, January 8, 2014 8:25:44 AM(UTC)
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nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Never has his team ready to play. Constant lulls. They never show up for a full 60.

Abandons the run. Stat whores with Aaron. More concerned about using "multiple formations and personnel groupings to confuse defenses" than he is with calling plays. Excruciatingly predictable play calling. Low percentage plays.


If every team "showed up" for a full 60 minutes, every team would be 19-0.

Run to pass ratio on Sunday was 31 : 26

Wouldn't different formations help to make play calling less predictable by throwing off the defense?

I'm not (necessarily) defending him, but saying play calling is predictable is one of my biggest pet peeves to read on a message board. What makes for a bad play call? You don't know what matchups someone is trying to exploit, who missed a block on what otherwise could have been a great play, who ran the wrong route, didn't pull effectively - how can we as fans know this stuff? We just see a play gained "x" yards and assume it was stupid/brilliant.
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Offline DarkaneRules  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, January 8, 2014 8:30:51 AM(UTC)
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I don't think he's the best coach in the league, but I think he is one of the top 5. I am content with that.
Offline play2win  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, January 8, 2014 8:43:42 AM(UTC)
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His teams make a LOT of mistakes, as does he himself in game time management. Nobody is perfect.

I think he is learning how to call a proper rushing attack. Clearly, he is still in the learning phase with that ridiculous call to Cobb out of the backfield on first and goal, when he had Lacy and Starks to pound the rock in there. He showed a real lack of confidence there, and I'm sure his team felt that too. Not good. Poor time management to end the first half with the extra time out. These things shouldn't be happening, but they are. Regardless, I think he is a good man, and is trying his best, and he is able to get his team together, at times, to win big games. The 2010 season was huge. Without that, he would be closer to the chopping block.

Personally, I am hoping for staff changes from him, and I am doubting highly that we will see that. That's another big knock on him in my book. I like him, but I'm pretty disappointed in his failings. The guy needs to take some action and make some real changes, as the Head Coach of this team, rather than just talking about what they need to fix with no results. Same thing every year for the last 3 years. That is starting to bug me.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, January 8, 2014 8:45:34 AM(UTC)
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nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Never has his team ready to play. Constant lulls. They never show up for a full 60.

Abandons the run. Stat whores with Aaron. More concerned about using "multiple formations and personnel groupings to confuse defenses" than he is with calling plays. Excruciatingly predictable play calling. Low percentage plays.


do you know what I find interesting? Perception. You feel he abandons the run and Texas feels he runs too much. That's why nothing that anyone says on these forums really means anything. Not that it isn't fun to read.

By the way nerd, this isn't a knock on you (or Texas for that matter) I just used your thread to reply to.
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, January 8, 2014 9:03:21 AM(UTC)
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sschind said: Go to Quoted Post
do you know what I find interesting? Perception. You feel he abandons the run and Texas feels he runs too much. That's why nothing that anyone says on these forums really means anything. Not that it isn't fun to read.

By the way nerd, this isn't a knock on you (or Texas for that matter) I just used your thread to reply to.


When I was home over Christmas my father bitched that McCarthy controls everything, that he's sure he's right and wants to prove it, and everyone else is his puppet. A week later I was talking to a friend of mine at a new years party and he bitched that McCarthy doesn't do anything...

People are full of it.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, January 8, 2014 9:08:28 AM(UTC)
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musccy said: Go to Quoted Post
If every team "showed up" for a full 60 minutes, every team would be 19-0.

Run to pass ratio on Sunday was 31 : 26

Wouldn't different formations help to make play calling less predictable by throwing off the defense?

I'm not (necessarily) defending him, but saying play calling is predictable is one of my biggest pet peeves to read on a message board. What makes for a bad play call? You don't know what matchups someone is trying to exploit, who missed a block on what otherwise could have been a great play, who ran the wrong route, didn't pull effectively - how can we as fans know this stuff? We just see a play gained "x" yards and assume it was stupid/brilliant.


Someone would still have to lose even if they showed up for a full 60 minutes As for Smile

As for what makes a bad play call most of the time its whether the play works or not. A first down run for no gain is a bad call and predictable. A first down run that gains 6 yards is a good call. A second down run that gets stuffed for a 3 yard loss is a bad call and predictable. A second down run that gains 4 yards and a first down is a good call. A third and 1 pass that gets a TD is a good call that mixes things up a third and 1 pass that is intercepted is a bad call and abandoning the run.

Obviously there is a little more to it than that but what it really comes down to is execution on the field by the players and perception off the field by the fans. Yes, there are times when a particular play may not have been the best one to call but it still comes down to whether or not it works. No coach will call plays he doesn't think will work.

Predictable play calling is a bit different. The more predictable you are the less likelihood the play will succeed and I can see that in Mike McCarthy a quite a bit. The thing is, if you have the talent being predictable is not always bad.
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