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Offline wpr  
#1 Posted : Sunday, January 19, 2014 1:19:01 PM(UTC)
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LombardiAve said:
Whether it was actually the chicken or the egg that came first is the question that has perplexed the greatest scholars — including us who follow the Green Bay Packers. All kidding aside, and now that the Packers' season is finished,  I am perplexed with a very similar question regarding the defense. Is the
Offline DakotaT  
#2 Posted : Sunday, January 19, 2014 1:37:51 PM(UTC)
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We've been over this enough haven't we? 1st mistake was going into the season without addressing the safety position, 2nd mistake was relying on Pickett and Raji to anchor down the d-line, third problem was something you can't prepare for - Matthews injury and other guys' injuries, and in my opinion the fourth mistake is never making any coaching changes. These guys for some reason have job security under TT/MM. Can anyone make a case for Trgvac (sp) still having a job after the epic failure that is BJ Raji? I mean we are talking about a physical freak of nature that was allowed to become a walking pile of shit as a football player. That is unacceptable in my opinion. Should Perry, our safety coach still have a job? Yeah, losing Collins really hurt, but he's paid to bring along whatever talent we have, and I'm sorry but Morgan Burnett regressed this season and M.D. Jennings shouldn't even be wearing a professional football jersey.

We have a lot of problems on our defense, and they were exposed pretty badly this season. But the silver lining is that we seem to have found a power running game - which will become our 12th man on defense in the future.
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Ted Thompson. He failed to sign big name free agents that would solidify depth on defense. No more excuses.
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#4 Posted : Sunday, January 19, 2014 1:44:04 PM(UTC)
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Right where the buck stops... That is where the blame lays.

I love Ted.

But the fact is he is responsible for it all.
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#5 Posted : Sunday, January 19, 2014 2:29:51 PM(UTC)
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I definitely agree with you guys in saying the blame has to begin and end with Thompson. Although Dom's scheme is not the greatest in the league and may falter even with better talent, the fact of the matter is we don't stack up with the likes of the '9ers or Seahawks.

Our mlb's are not playmakers, both safety positions did not produce(as we have discussed a lot here) and we had absolutely nothing most of the season with olb's. Some of that was due to injury, sure. But the depth of talent we have is incredibly lacking. I love our CB's, even though I felt they had a down year. We need some attitude and dudes that will lay the wood- I'm so desperate I will even take a dirty defense- somebody just hit someone!
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#6 Posted : Sunday, January 19, 2014 2:37:33 PM(UTC)
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DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
We've been over this enough haven't we? 1st mistake was going into the season without addressing the safety position, 2nd mistake was relying on Pickett and Raji to anchor down the d-line, third problem was something you can't prepare for - Matthews injury and other guys' injuries, and in my opinion the fourth mistake is never making any coaching changes. These guys for some reason have job security under TT/MM. Can anyone make a case for Trgvac (sp) still having a job after the epic failure that is BJ Raji? I mean we are talking about a physical freak of nature that was allowed to become a walking pile of shit as a football player. That is unacceptable in my opinion. Should Perry, our safety coach still have a job? Yeah, losing Collins really hurt, but he's paid to bring along whatever talent we have, and I'm sorry but Morgan Burnett regressed this season and M.D. Jennings shouldn't even be wearing a professional football jersey.

We have a lot of problems on our defense, and they were exposed pretty badly this season. But the silver lining is that we seem to have found a power running game - which will become our 10th man on defense in the future.



Good Analysis. When you stick to football, you actually have a lick of sense.

The article was pretty fair and balanced, but it left out the factor of position coaches, as well as the non-injured players who failed so miserably. Of course, Thompson deserves a lot of blame. However, going all in on big name free agents isn't the complete answer either. Drafting better is as much or more needed. As for Capers, most of his critics have it all wrong. It'[s NOT his schemes and strategies. They kept us close in difficult circumstances. The share of blame Capers gets is personnel - sticking with Raji and Pickett as starters at the top of the list. Also sitting Lattimore in favor of Jones, and whatever might have been done at Safety - Hyde there or whatever.

10th man on Defense? You mean we have only been playing with nine hahahaha? That might explain things.
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coltonja said: Go to Quoted Post
I definitely agree with you guys in saying the blame has to begin and end with Thompson. Although Dom's scheme is not the greatest in the league and may falter even with better talent, the fact of the matter is we don't stack up with the likes of the '9ers or Seahawks.

Our mlb's are not playmakers, both safety positions did not produce(as we have discussed a lot here) and we had absolutely nothing most of the season with olb's. Some of that was due to injury, sure. But the depth of talent we have is incredibly lacking. I love our CB's, even though I felt they had a down year. We need some attitude and dudes that will lay the wood- I'm so desperate I will even take a dirty defense- somebody just hit someone!


Talent wise, we match up with any team in the league in all three phases.

PROBLEM: We can't keep them on the field. That last playoff game came down to THE LAST SECOND. Anyone doubt we win that game if we don't lose Shields AND Neal on the FIRST DRIVE? Now how about if you add Clay to the Mix.

Let's say we never lost Aaron, and we went 12-4. We're not even PLAYING that week. We're resting. How about Jermicheal Finley? Might have helped us out a bit, no?

And talk all you want about "not replacing Nick Collins." But the fact is, Ted GOT us Nick Collins. Once in a generation talent. What happened? Another sickening injury.
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#8 Posted : Sunday, January 19, 2014 3:32:34 PM(UTC)
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A majority of the blame is injuries. So if you want to blame just 1 thing that would be it. It may not be a top 5 defense fully healthy but it would still be pretty good.
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#9 Posted : Sunday, January 19, 2014 4:29:31 PM(UTC)
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Its tough when you add all these injures to this defense that has been in rebuilding mode since 11'.
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#10 Posted : Sunday, January 19, 2014 6:14:06 PM(UTC)
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To me it is a toss up, is it the lack of playmakers at safety or is it the lack of push of our DL? Both need a severe infusion of talent. To second Dakota's comment, how do some of these positional coaches still have a job? When a player like Raji regresses from a pro-bowl player to a waste of space (and not in a good way) where is the fire under his ass?
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