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QCHuskerFan  
#101 Posted : Sunday, February 23, 2014 7:42:59 PM(UTC)
I think 1st rd picks may have become more expensive to trade for since the last CBA. It limited the big money given to 1st rounders so teams have more reason not to trade now. Just my thought.

Sschind, I am confident our pick next year will be #32. So quit worrying about #20 or #25 or #29! :)

sschind  
#102 Posted : Sunday, February 23, 2014 10:09:24 PM(UTC)
QCHuskerFan said: Go to Quoted Post


Sschind, I am confident our pick next year will be #32. So quit worrying about #20 or #25 or #29! :)



I know I know, I'm with you on that, I just didn't want to sound arrogant if you know what I mean.
QCHuskerFan  
#103 Posted : Monday, February 24, 2014 2:04:37 PM(UTC)
One last thought on the elite defense. I live in IL so I am constantly exposed to Bears fans. They spent the entire Lovey Smith tenure bragging about their defense. Where'd it get them? How many trophies did they hoist? They didn't even really get close consistently. But they had Urlacher!!! Yippee.
mi_keys  
#104 Posted : Monday, February 24, 2014 5:46:04 PM(UTC)
QCHuskerFan said: Go to Quoted Post
One last thought on the elite defense. I live in IL so I am constantly exposed to Bears fans. They spent the entire Lovey Smith tenure bragging about their defense. Where'd it get them? How many trophies did they hoist? They didn't even really get close consistently. But they had Urlacher!!! Yippee.


I live in Chicago now so thank God they didn't. God bless Sexy Rexy.
play2win  
#105 Posted : Monday, April 14, 2014 2:01:32 PM(UTC)
So, let's say AZ, with the #20 pick, wants to trade down for more. They only have 6 picks in this draft.

Would you trade away next year's R1, this year's R3 #85, R4 #121 and R5 #161?

That would net us 2 first round picks, we would keep our R2 #53, our R3 #98, our R5 #176, R6 #197 and R7 #236.

I would love for Ted to do this if he saw fit to add players he liked at both #20 and 21.
joemailman  
#106 Posted : Monday, April 14, 2014 3:01:16 PM(UTC)
play2win said: Go to Quoted Post
So, let's say AZ, with the #20 pick, wants to trade down for more. They only have 6 picks in this draft.

Would you trade away next year's R1, this year's R3 #85, R4 #121 and R5 #161?

That would net us 2 first round picks, we would keep our R2 #53, our R3 #98, our R5 #176, R6 #197 and R7 #236.

I would love for Ted to do this if he saw fit to add players he liked at both #20 and 21.


It's an interesting idea, and if the right players were available, it could be justified. I don't think Arizona would do it though, because if the trade helps the Packers this year, the 1st round pick they get next year might be a lot lower than the one they're giving up this year. Plus next year's draft will probably be weaker than this year's draft.

play2win  
#107 Posted : Tuesday, April 15, 2014 6:03:43 AM(UTC)
Can you imagine adding both Ryan Shazier and Kelvin Benjamin in R1? Or Calvin Pryor and CJ Mosley? That's kind of what I am hoping for, while still holding onto our R2 and an R3. We have the firepower to do that.
nerdmann  
#108 Posted : Tuesday, April 15, 2014 8:01:25 AM(UTC)
play2win said: Go to Quoted Post
Can you imagine adding both Ryan Shazier and Kelvin Benjamin in R1? Or Calvin Pryor and CJ Mosley? That's kind of what I am hoping for, while still holding onto our R2 and an R3. We have the firepower to do that.


Last year, Ted got both Eddie Lacy AND Johnathan Franklin, and didn't even need a R1 to get either one. LOL
DarkaneRules  
#109 Posted : Tuesday, April 15, 2014 8:24:44 AM(UTC)
The more attempts you have at the plate, the more chances you have to knock one or more out of the park.
play2win  
#110 Posted : Tuesday, April 15, 2014 9:08:57 AM(UTC)
DarkaneRules said: Go to Quoted Post
The more attempts you have at the plate, the more chances you have to knock one or more out of the park.


We know Ted can find his gems, and along with that there can be a bunch of duds. Saw Terrell Manning was released by SD this week. Out of 8 picks from 2012, 4 are no longer on the team in McMillian R4, Manning R5, Datko and Coleman R7s. From 2011, only 3 out of 10 picks remain on the team, Sherrod, Cobb and House.

I'd rather consolidate our picks in the front of the draft and trade away the back end. Maybe all of 161, 179 and 236. Figure, we could trade with WAS our 121, 161 and 197 for their 102, the second pick in R4. Now, if we were to also trade our R1 from 2015 to get an additional R2, we could wind up with quite a haul.

I would also trade an R2 from next year along with our R3 #85 to IND for their R2 at 59.
warhawk  
#111 Posted : Tuesday, April 15, 2014 10:33:09 AM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Last year, Ted got both Eddie Lacy AND Johnathan Franklin, and didn't even need a R1 to get either one. LOL


Ted could probably trade out to early round two and get Shazier and then trade the 21st picks of rounds two and three and move back up to get Benjamin.

He would still have an early 3rd round pick (by virtue of trading the 21st pick and picking up an early 2nd and 3rd)and a late 3rd round comp pick.

All this without having to do anything with future picks. Ted's been known to move around but doesn't mess with future picks so I wouldn't hold my breath.

There are plenty of good players in this draft between 32 and 70. I look for Ted to work his magic there somehow.







steveishere  
#112 Posted : Tuesday, April 15, 2014 10:36:48 AM(UTC)
warhawk said: Go to Quoted Post
Ted could probably trade out to early round two and get Shazier and then trade the 21st picks of rounds two and three and move back up to get Benjamin.

He would still have an early 3rd round pick (by virtue of trading the 21st pick and picking up an early 2nd and 3rd)and a late 3rd round comp pick.

All this without having to do anything with future picks. Ted's been known to move around but doesn't mess with future picks so I wouldn't hold my breath.

There are plenty of good players in this draft between 32 and 70. I look for Ted to work his magic there somehow.









Most teams don't mess with future picks and for good reason. I can't think of a lot of teams that have really come out on top after trading high future picks.
play2win  
#113 Posted : Thursday, April 17, 2014 5:44:26 AM(UTC)
steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
Most teams don't mess with future picks and for good reason. I can't think of a lot of teams that have really come out on top after trading high future picks.


NYG 1st and 5th from following year to SD for Eli Manning. 2 SB wins.

ATL traded up with SD a future R2 for Michael Vick. Took them to the playoffs...

DAL traded 3 R2s to move up and select Tony Dorsett.

But, you are right, the success rates seem very small. Some of them work, but they are few and far between. Thousands of bad trades compared to a handful of good ones throughout NFL history when trading top future picks.

Here's more info on the low success rate of trading future R1s and R2s...
http://thebiglead.com/20...rly-picks-is-a-bad-idea/
Zero2Cool  
#114 Posted : Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:43:27 AM(UTC)
play2win said: Go to Quoted Post
NYG 1st and 5th from following year to SD for Eli Manning. 2 SB wins.

ATL traded up with SD a future R2 for Michael Vick. Took them to the playoffs...

DAL traded 3 R2s to move up and select Tony Dorsett.

But, you are right, the success rates seem very small. Some of them work, but they are few and far between. Thousands of bad trades compared to a handful of good ones throughout NFL history when trading top future picks.

Here's more info on the low success rate of trading future R1s and R2s...
http://thebiglead.com/20...rly-picks-is-a-bad-idea/


2013 Rams 7 - 9
2013 Redskins 3 - 13


Redskins get:
2nd-overall pick (2012)

Rams get:
2nd-overall pick (2014)
6th-overall pick (2012)
22nd-overall pick (2013)
39th-overall pick (2012)



It disgusts me that the Rams have two picks in the first 13 selections. Lucky pricks.
User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#115 Posted : Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:57:16 AM(UTC)
I don't really like the idea of trading picks from next year to load up this year, but that is a LOT better idea than trading down. Also, if there ever was a year to do it, this would be the year - partly because the draft is supposedly so strong, but mainly because the Packers have such significant needs at Safety and ILB. Fix those, and our draft picks next year will be way down at the bottom of each round anyway.
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