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nerdmann  
#1 Posted : Monday, February 24, 2014 9:04:28 PM(UTC)
Kind of an oddly illuminating article by Tom Oates:

Oates: Packers should re-sign B.J. Raji

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There are plenty of mixed signals coming from the Packers on this topic and their true approach to fixing their defense is hard to decipher. However, from my vantage point, it sounds like McCarthy wants Capers to stop being so dogmatic about his 3-4 scheme and start building the defense around the talents of his players.

If that’s the case, then the Packers’ first order of business on defense is clear: They should re-sign Raji, one of four Green Bay linemen who will hit unrestricted free agency March 11.

OK, you can stop laughing now. While it is true Raji in 2013 had quite possibly the worst contract year in the history of professional sports, the Packers should try to keep him around because, if used differently, he could still become the explosive, disruptive player they thought he was when they made him the ninth overall pick in the 2009 draft.



I thought the below was odd myself. They have Raji, a penetrating pass rushing interior DL playing END. Because they want him to "take up blockers." So then why do they put Daniels in the middle to rush the passer?

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Second, Raji’s declining performance is not entirely his fault. Capers wants his linemen to be two-gapping run-stuffers whose primary job is to occupy blockers and give the linebackers room to make tackles. That’s not Raji, and it never has been. If the Packers are indeed going to emphasize playing to their players’ strengths, they should devise ways to let him shoot through gaps and be disruptive. Raji was a good soldier who bit his tongue last season even though it was clear he wasn’t happy about the way he was being used, so a change in approach likely would spur a change in his attitude and in his productivity.



Now here we hear that Raji was unhappy about how he was being used.

Finally, we get some evidence that this "smaller quicker DL" theme is bullshit:

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Finally, comments made by Arizona State nose tackle Will Sutton confirmed the Packers aren’t looking to get smaller up front. The athletic Sutton, a potential first-round draft pick, played at 320 pounds last season before dropping to 303 for the combine. The Packers told him they would want him back at 320 if they drafted him, which indicates they don’t want smaller linemen as much as they want more active linemen.

User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#2 Posted : Monday, February 24, 2014 9:21:05 PM(UTC)
Why don't they just come out and say they don't want 350lb lazy sacks of shit lacking a heartbeat or the enthusiasm to get paid to play a kids game. The lack of professionalism Raji displayed in the 2013-14 season is alarming, and I hope nobody signs him.
steveishere  
#3 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:52:37 AM(UTC)
The problem with re-signing Raji is why the hell would you want a 330+ lb lineman when the only thing he will do is shoot gaps and pass rush? He's not better at it than Daniels. If we're going to drop that money on a big ass lineman he needs to be able to do more. Raji is a 340lber but only wants to play like a 290lber that's fine, do it somewhere else.

Being a "good soldier" is not just about biting your tongue about being upset it's about still doing your job to the best of your abilities AND keeping your mouth shut even if you are upset. So no, Raji was not a "good soldier" at all.

What bothers me is Raji could be a dominant player in any phase of the game if he had actually wanted to. If Raji was a dominant lineman last year we could have even found ourselves facing Seattle in the NFC Championship then who knows what happens.
musccy  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 7:26:09 AM(UTC)
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There are plenty of mixed signals coming from the Packers on this topic and their true approach to fixing their defense is hard to decipher. However, from my vantage point, it sounds like McCarthy wants Capers to stop being so dogmatic about his 3-4 scheme and start building the defense around the talents of his players.


Not that Oates' perception of a situation is fact, but this coupled with the strong comments this week that McCarthy controls the defense are interesting to me. I sense that he is a little frustrated with the defense, and is willing to grab the bull by the horns to make sure there are changes made this offseason.
User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 7:51:10 AM(UTC)
I've been as definite as anybody with the possible exception of Dakota about getting rid of that big fat piece of crap. That alone more than any other single factor will help D-Line play, and defense in general.

Where I disagree with some people is that it is just his attitude. Oh, I'm not saying he doesn't have a rotten attitude too, but I don't think his ABILITY is as great as advertized when we drafted him either.

He does not seem to have the raw strength and toughness that a lot of D-Linemen - both smaller and big like him seem to have.

He reminds me of Prince Fielder in baseball - never as good as he was expected to be, and SHORT and fat. He also reminds me - for those old enough to remember and Badger fans - of Rashard Griffith - supposed to be an all out superstar, and just not; also supposed to be over 7 feet tall, and actually under 6'10".
yooperfan  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:15:30 AM(UTC)
musccy said: Go to Quoted Post
Not that Oates' perception of a situation is fact, but this coupled with the strong comments this week that McCarthy controls the defense are interesting to me. I sense that he is a little frustrated with the defense, and is willing to grab the bull by the horns to make sure there are changes made this offseason.

Mike McCarthy may be willing, let's hope it happens.
I have been hoping he would get more involved with the defense for a long time.
I would like to see him turn over the play calling to someone else so he can concentrate his attention on the entire team.
musccy  
#7 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:46:59 AM(UTC)
texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post


He reminds me of Prince Fielder in baseball - never as good as he was expected to be, and SHORT and fat. He also reminds me - for those old enough to remember and Badger fans - of Rashard Griffith - supposed to be an all out superstar, and just not; also supposed to be over 7 feet tall, and actually under 6'10".



I like the reference. Wasn't he there the same time as Finley? They should have been more dominant than they were, but like you said he was a bit of a paper tiger.

I think Oates' points about him being misused are interesting and something I hadn't thought of, but to me talent and or effort still shines through. CM3 goes 1:1 against tackles in this defense and although he is WAY undersized for that, you still see the basic pass rushing skills/speed at times even though he is generally over matched.
User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#8 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:59:52 PM(UTC)
texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
I've been as definite as anybody with the possible exception of Dakota about getting rid of that big fat piece of crap. That alone more than any other single factor will help D-Line play, and defense in general.

Where I disagree with some people is that it is just his attitude. Oh, I'm not saying he doesn't have a rotten attitude too, but I don't think his ABILITY is as great as advertized when we drafted him either.

He does not seem to have the raw strength and toughness that a lot of D-Linemen - both smaller and big like him seem to have.

He reminds me of Prince Fielder in baseball - never as good as he was expected to be, and SHORT and fat. He also reminds me - for those old enough to remember and Badger fans - of Rashard Griffith - supposed to be an all out superstar, and just not; also supposed to be over 7 feet tall, and actually under 6'10".


If you made sense like this when we argue about politics, I wouldn't have to call you a Dumbass all the time. I remember Rashard Griffith - what a waste!
User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#9 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 7:08:52 PM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
If you made sense like this when we argue about politics, I wouldn't have to call you a Dumbass all the time. I remember Rashard Griffith - what a waste!


back at you hahahaha

DarkaneRules  
#10 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:55:48 AM(UTC)
Welp I have absolutely no idea about this Raji business. I felt like out of Pickett and Raji, one of them would stay, so... I just don't know.
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