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User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#21 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:13:35 AM(UTC)
Peppers had a 6 year $84 million contract with the Bears - $42 million guaranteed - presumably most of that bonus. I would think that amounts to a HUGE piece of "dead money" under the cap for the Bears.
User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#22 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:13:42 AM(UTC)
Mucky Tundra said: Go to Quoted Post
Cutler's reaction to this signing

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I thought that was Mr. Personality's happy face!
Zero2Cool  
#23 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:15:57 AM(UTC)
gbguy20  
#24 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:27:52 AM(UTC)
now for jarius byrd

wait
sschind  
#25 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:29:19 AM(UTC)
Basically its a 1 year deal for 8.5 million with a friendly cap hit for the Packers in 2014 with limited dead money in 2015 and 2016. Unless part of the 30 million max is other bonuses (Pro Bowl, certain #sacks etc) or includes a really really huge 2016 base salary his cap hit will be well over 10 million in 2015 and 2016.

If he plays well he has already shown his willingness to restructure so I could see him agreeing to something else next season as well.

I guess you can consider this a blockbuster signing for the Packers simply because of the name alone but it is a short term fix. It may turn out to be a great short term fix as I do expect him to contribute a great deal to the Packers pass rush but we will be left with a similar situation next season. Hopefully by then Jones will have come on strong and we can make a seamless transition.

I'm excited because I have seen how disruptive he can be but my excitement is tempered by the fact that he is 34 years old and is pretty much a stopgap fill in. Regardless, I suspect for at least 2014 our pass rush just got a whole lot better.


There is another possible outcome that I will not go into details about until I see the details of this deal but suffice it to say it involves unclear (to me anyway) terminology a lot more than 3.5 million in cap hit this year.
steveishere  
#26 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:31:15 AM(UTC)
texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
Peppers had a 6 year $84 million contract with the Bears - $42 million guaranteed - presumably most of that bonus. I would think that amounts to a HUGE piece of "dead money" under the cap for the Bears.


He was in the last year of the deal and I think they reworked it once so instead of 7m they actually have 8.3m in dead money for him this year.
steveishere  
#27 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:32:30 AM(UTC)
cheeseheads123 said: Go to Quoted Post
So basically packers traded eds for peppers


lol more like they traded MD Jennings to the Bears for Peppers.
rabidgopher04  
#28 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:41:43 AM(UTC)
Mucky Tundra said: Go to Quoted Post
Cutler's reaction to this signing

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Actually I am pretty sure it was this:

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or even this:

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User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#29 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:47:47 AM(UTC)
gbguy20 said: Go to Quoted Post
now for jarius byrd

wait


It could be done.

User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#30 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:56:17 AM(UTC)
sschind said: Go to Quoted Post
Basically its a 1 year deal for 8.5 million with a friendly cap hit for the Packers in 2014 with limited dead money in 2015 and 2016. Unless part of the 30 million max is other bonuses (Pro Bowl, certain #sacks etc) or includes a really really huge 2016 base salary his cap hit will be well over 10 million in 2015 and 2016.

If he plays well he has already shown his willingness to restructure so I could see him agreeing to something else next season as well.

I guess you can consider this a blockbuster signing for the Packers simply because of the name alone but it is a short term fix. It may turn out to be a great short term fix as I do expect him to contribute a great deal to the Packers pass rush but we will be left with a similar situation next season. Hopefully by then Jones will have come on strong and we can make a seamless transition.

I'm excited because I have seen how disruptive he can be but my excitement is tempered by the fact that he is 34 years old and is pretty much a stopgap fill in. Regardless, I suspect for at least 2014 our pass rush just got a whole lot better.


There is another possible outcome that I will not go into details about until I see the details of this deal but suffice it to say it involves unclear (to me anyway) terminology a lot more than 3.5 million in cap hit this year.


I saw an article somewhere that the Packers are bringing back the elephant end position that Tim Harris use to play. Could it be that Peppers is being brought as D Jones' teacher on how to rush the passer and play the run tough?

I'm very skeptical about how many downs Peppers has in him per game at age 34, but if he can help bring along Jones, then this signing will be well worth it. Hopefully Big Julius will get to end his career with a championship.
warhawk  
#31 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 9:01:53 AM(UTC)
I see it as a huge advantage to get a veteran like this that allows the Packers to draft a couple of players over the next two years with a lot of upside that needs that first year to develop.

I can see scratching off DE in the first couple of rounds now and nabbing a player with a ton of potential in a later round and concentrating on Safety, ILB, and depth at OLB.

There is more to this than Peppers giving us two good years.

PackFanWithTwins  
#32 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 9:35:15 AM(UTC)
Call me surprised, I didn't not believe Ted would bring in Peppers. I never thought he was a great fit for the defense, but I can see how he improves them as a whole. I could see Neal and Peppers side by side perhaps doing stunts. Or Raji Peppers and Matthews on a side, that would guarantee Peppers single blocking. Hopefully he is a good teammate and helps Datone, and Worthy with technique.
DarkaneRules  
#33 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 9:48:27 AM(UTC)
Went over the numbers and this is a great damn deal we got for him. Say what you will about the brass but their contracts are usually pretty solid. Matthews needs to stay healthy though...
porky88  
#34 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 1:14:50 PM(UTC)
The Packers are definitely going to a hybrid look this season. They’re looking to install an elephant package into their defense. These were rumors, but this signing confirms them. I thought Mike Neal was a great fit for this package, but I have to imagine they signed Peppers to play it. Sometimes he'll lineup as a 4-3 defensive end, other times he'll stand up and play outside linebacker. In the case of Peppers, it's obvious he'll lineup as a 4-3 defensive end most of the time, so he gives them more flexibility.
QCHuskerFan  
#35 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 1:37:17 PM(UTC)
Can you imagine a LG & LT getting in their stance on 3rd & 12 and looking up to see Matthews stacked behind Peppers? Think they'd be screaming for TE and RB help????? It's got situational promise!!!!!
Zero2Cool  
#36 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 2:31:36 PM(UTC)
QCHuskerFan said: Go to Quoted Post
Can you imagine a LG & LT getting in their stance on 3rd & 12 and looking up to see Matthews stacked behind Peppers? Think they'd be screaming for TE and RB help????? It's got situational promise!!!!!


I think it would make more sense to have them opposite of one another. Otherwise you could use three two block the two quite easily. They kept Cullen Jenkins and Clay Matthews opposite for this reason. You can't double both sides of the line and still maintain solid protection play in play out.
wpr  
#37 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 2:54:18 PM(UTC)
First reaction- HE"S TO OLD!
Second reaction- The numbers are pretty good.
Third reaction- Damn Ted did it to us again. Even though most of us didn't expect him to go big.


Bring Peppers in on 2nd and long and 3rd down and he will get after the QB. He will be fresh for the whole game and still be able to do something when the game is on the line.

One thing is certain- JP is going to play balls out for at least 2 games a year. SWEET!!
steveishere  
#38 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 3:00:49 PM(UTC)
Also since he was released we can still get a draft pick next year for EDS. Though it will probably be like a 6th or 7th.
sschind  
#39 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:05:50 PM(UTC)
More good news (assuming you think the signing of Peppers is good news) he won't count against the Packers in any compensatory draft pick calculations for the 2015 draft even if he does light it up.


http://espn.go.com/blog/...d-give-packers-d-a-boost
Zero2Cool  
#40 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:16:54 PM(UTC)
I heard that Julius Peppers will count twice as much on the Bears cap than the Packers.
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