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OlHoss1884  
#61 Posted : Monday, March 17, 2014 11:13:46 AM(UTC)
To me there is a big difference with older free agents not based on how much they have left nut in how much they still want it. Bruce Smith was hanging on to get the sack record, not going to revitalize his career. More recently Osi U went to Atlanta to play near his home, not to show the Giants they made a mistake. Steve Smith wants to shove it down the Panthers' throats. Peppers seems, anyway to be more like the latter. I think he genuinely wants to compete and see what the challenge of a new defense brings.

In a year or two he may have nothing left but I bet he gives a short term boost much like Alan Page did going to Chicago years ago.
warhawk  
#62 Posted : Monday, March 17, 2014 1:11:14 PM(UTC)
What I see that Capers has now is a group of guys that will allow him to pull all stops with his schemes.

Daniels has been a blessing and now has two years under his belt. Datone Jones obviously is just learning the system but now has that first year behind him. Time to cut him loose. Jolly will hopefully be back but even he hadn't been in this system for years.

Now add Peppers into the mix.

The few interior Dlinemen that can rush the QB have been young along with OLB's that have missed far to many games being replaced by....young guys. Add Neal in there taking over a new position as well. This has had to put the clamps on many things Capers would have liked to be able to do.

With more experience and adding Peppers in there we are going to see all kinds of different ways Capers will come up with pressure. I can see this D consistently coming up with sacks and pressure in a wide variety of ways because there is finally the experience there that Capers needed to put his trust in.

This is going to be fun to watch.



Wade  
#63 Posted : Monday, March 17, 2014 1:39:21 PM(UTC)
It's an improvement over last year. That's the big thing to me.

That's one UFA, Ted. Don't stop yet.

sschind  
#64 Posted : Monday, March 17, 2014 4:29:42 PM(UTC)
Wade said: Go to Quoted Post
It's an improvement over last year. That's the big thing to me.

That's one UFA, Ted. Don't stop yet.



Yup, and any improvement in the pass rush should have a positive impact in the secondary as well. Our defense should be better. Of course they were so bad last year they could get better this year and still suck.
Zero2Cool  
#65 Posted : Monday, November 17, 2014 7:00:23 AM(UTC)
I'm starting to feel this signing is equivalent to the Desmond Howard and Charles Woodson signings of years gone by.
User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#66 Posted : Monday, November 17, 2014 7:26:15 AM(UTC)
I can't believe Chicago let Peppers walk to replace him with washed up Jared Allen. I'd love for Peppers to give us 3 years, but I'll be happy with two.
Mucky Tundra  
#67 Posted : Monday, November 17, 2014 7:35:33 AM(UTC)
I was worried that this dude didn't have anything left in the tank. I was worried that his play would be inconsistent based on his reputation of taking plays off here and there. Now I'm starting to wonder how many INT TD returns this guy would have if he'd played as OLB in a 3-4 his whole career. All I got to say is use both hands when doing the Lambeau Leap Julius!
Zero2Cool  
#68 Posted : Monday, November 17, 2014 7:48:01 AM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
I can't believe Chicago let Peppers walk to replace him with washed up Jared Allen. I'd love for Peppers to give us 3 years, but I'll be happy with two.


I think they actually cut him and are on the hook for several million this year because of it.
User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#69 Posted : Monday, November 17, 2014 8:35:50 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
I think they actually cut him and are on the hook for several million this year because of it.


Yeah it was a salary cap dump, but the guy can still play. A very poor lack of judgment on their, very happy to scoop up their crumbs.
wpr  
#70 Posted : Monday, November 17, 2014 9:25:44 AM(UTC)
Allen 9 games 20 tackles 17 assists 2.5 sacks 1 fumble forced 1 pass defensed. He has a three-year, $24 million deal.

Peppers 10 games 17 tackles 12 assists 5 sacks 2 fumble forced 3 fumbles recovered 2 ints 2 tds 6 pass defensed. He has a 3 year up to $26 million.
buckeyepackfan  
#71 Posted : Monday, November 17, 2014 11:36:44 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
I think they actually cut him and are on the hook for several million this year because of it.


Did I read wrong when this deal was originally made, but I think The Bears are actually paying Peppers more than The Packers are this year.

Anybody know for sure?

Ted doesn't jump in the pool often, but when he does he seems to make a big splash!!!!
Mucky Tundra  
#72 Posted : Monday, November 17, 2014 11:50:57 AM(UTC)
buckeyepackfan said: Go to Quoted Post
Did I read wrong when this deal was originally made, but I think The Bears are actually paying Peppers more than The Packers are this year.

Anybody know for sure?

Ted doesn't jump in the pool often, but when he does he seems to make a big splash!!!!


Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
I heard that Julius Peppers will count twice as much on the Bears cap than the Packers.


According the wise sage known as Zero2Cool, this is true!

Edit: Chicago Bears take salary cap hit for Julius Peppers
sschind  
#73 Posted : Monday, November 17, 2014 7:59:34 PM(UTC)
buckeyepackfan said: Go to Quoted Post
Did I read wrong when this deal was originally made, but I think The Bears are actually paying Peppers more than The Packers are this year.

Anybody know for sure?

Ted doesn't jump in the pool often, but when he does he seems to make a big splash!!!!


For the Bears the choices were keep him and count 18 million against the cap (he wasn't going to renegotiate) or cut him and count 8 million (I think those figures are about right) They had 8 million in dead money but they freed up 10 by letting him go. I don't think he actually got any salary from the Bears this season. I think it was his prorated signing bonus that hit the Bears cap but I could be wrong.

He won't be as cheap for us next year though and if we cut him we will be in a similar situation (though not quite as bad) If we keep him he will count 12 mill against the cap and if we cut him he will count 5 and whoever signs him will probably be saying the same thing about us that we are about the Bears right now.

Another good thing is that he won't count against the Packers when it comes time to figure compensatory picks. James Jones isn't having a terrible year in Oakland and I'd think he would net us a 4th.
Zero2Cool  
#74 Posted : Friday, March 27, 2015 7:54:28 AM(UTC)
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DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
Yeah it was a salary cap dump, but the guy can still play. A very poor lack of judgment on their, very happy to scoop up their crumbs.


You were spot on, he could still play. I was quite happy watching him return an INT for a TD. If he produces even 75% of what he did last year during this upcoming year, I think that would be fantastic.

Mucky Tundra  
#75 Posted : Friday, March 27, 2015 8:09:48 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
OLD THREAD ALERT



You were spot on, he could still play. I was quite happy watching him return an INT for a TD. If he produces even 75% of what he did last year during this upcoming year, I think that would be fantastic.



Well, as long as they don't run him into the ground like they did the first 10 or so games of the season (granted with rest he rebounded in the playoffs) I think he'll be fine.
nerdmann  
#76 Posted : Friday, March 27, 2015 10:07:42 AM(UTC)
Mucky Tundra said: Go to Quoted Post
Well, as long as they don't run him into the ground like they did the first 10 or so games of the season (granted with rest he rebounded in the playoffs) I think he'll be fine.


He'll definitely be on a pitch count this year. They'll ease him off in December if they can, so he'll be fresh for the playoffs.
beast  
#77 Posted : Friday, March 27, 2015 10:27:58 AM(UTC)
Mucky Tundra said: Go to Quoted Post
Well, as long as they don't run him into the ground like they did the first 10 or so games of the season (granted with rest he rebounded in the playoffs) I think he'll be fine.


To me it seemed like Peppers made most of the plays early on, wondering why Matthews wasn't making more plays, and then at some point that reversed itself And people wondered why Peppers dropped off. I thought maybe teams decided to stop Matthews at the start of the season and as he was making more plays then slide it to Peppers. But overall balanced as the other team was taking one away all year.

But you could be right, maybe Peppers got run down. .. hopefully Neal and Perry will be able to step up.
User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#78 Posted : Friday, March 27, 2015 12:11:23 PM(UTC)
beast said: Go to Quoted Post

But you could be right, maybe Peppers got run down. .. hopefully Neal and Perry will be able to step up.


I'm hoping Jarone Elliot steps up. The good thing is that we have proven players and aren't thin at OLB anymore.
DoddPower  
#79 Posted : Friday, March 27, 2015 1:00:27 PM(UTC)
Julius Peppers needs to be a situational pass rusher only. When he is fresh, he is a difference maker, but we can't expect him to stay fresh all season long when playing most the game. Use him right Dom, and he will still be an asset.
Mucky Tundra  
#80 Posted : Friday, March 27, 2015 4:39:21 PM(UTC)
beast said: Go to Quoted Post
To me it seemed like Peppers made most of the plays early on, wondering why Matthews wasn't making more plays, and then at some point that reversed itself And people wondered why Peppers dropped off. I thought maybe teams decided to stop Matthews at the start of the season and as he was making more plays then slide it to Peppers. But overall balanced as the other team was taking one away all year.

But you could be right, maybe Peppers got run down. .. hopefully Neal and Perry will be able to step up.


Green Bay Packers' NFC divisional playoff snap counts

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After playing 76.3 percent the snaps in the first 14 games of the season, Peppers has played just 65.3 percent of snaps in the past three games. The rest might have helped. He played perhaps his best game of the season on Sunday with 1.5 sacks and two forced fumbles
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