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gbguy20  
#21 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 2:27:50 PM(UTC)
What do they have to lose signing this guy just like any other udfa? just do it already
Zero2Cool  
#22 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 2:29:27 PM(UTC)
gbguy20 said: Go to Quoted Post
What do they have to lose signing this guy just like any other udfa? just do it already


As you know, NFL teams only get 90 players to a roster so they are trying to pick the best players for that 90 person roster.

gbguy20  
#23 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 2:31:56 PM(UTC)
Based on what I have seen posted on here, the guy has to have more potential than at least 1 of our other UDFA's.

Unless they all have people ranting and raving over how talented they are.
wpr  
#24 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 5:25:58 PM(UTC)
Rob Demovsky said:
GREEN BAY, Wis. — The biggest surprise of rookie orientation camp was the Green Bay Packers' decision to bring in troubled former Oregon tight end Colt Lyerla for a two-day tryout.

Now, it might be an even bigger surprise if they did not sign him.

The Packers were leaning that way following the conclusion of camp on Saturday, but general manager Ted Thompson was still mulling it, according to a person familiar with the process who said Thompson planned to sleep on it.
DakotaT  
#25 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 6:21:28 PM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post


I hope he makes it all the way to the starting lineup, and we can take that Packer's people bullshit and stick it. Talent is what wins in the NFL, and a team full of good character guys can take a bad apple and help him change. Isn't that what mentoring is all about, or do we just condemn shitheads in their formidable years?
uffda udfa  
#26 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 6:27:28 PM(UTC)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgqbrR8FOYI

Watch this guy and how hard he is to go down. Just one tough SOB...he runs it out of the backfield like Randall Cobb mixed with Eddie Lacy. He brings a varied skill set with impressive measurables that no one else can touch for a TE. His vertical was just .5" less than Davante Adams. He outjumped all TE's at combine by 4". You don't find guys like him very often. Conversely, you don't find guys with his character too often, either. I'm going to bet if he played another position he wouldn't have such a stigma. Aaron Hernandez and the comparison has to make teams nervous. Who wants to take on a troubled TE who could may go Aaron Hernandez on you? I have not read anything about violence but some stuff regarding him has been kept quiet from what I read, if memory serves.
wpr  
#27 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 6:43:57 PM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
I hope he makes it all the way to the starting lineup, and we can take that Packer's people bullshit and stick it. Talent is what wins in the NFL, and a team full of good character guys can take a bad apple and help him change. Isn't that what mentoring is all about, or do we just condemn shitheads in their formidable years?


I do too. Packer People has been a myth from the beginning.

Johnny Blood was not a choir boy.
Hornung of course was exemplary.
Lofton and Coffman never had a care in the world.
DakotaT  
#28 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 7:08:43 PM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
I do too. Packer People has been a myth from the beginning.

Johnny Blood was not a choir boy.
Hornung of course was exemplary.
Lofton and Coffman never had a care in the world.


And don't forget the biggest shithead of them all: Brett Favre. But all his "skeletons" were put in a vault not a closet.
Mucky Tundra  
#29 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 7:31:12 PM(UTC)
Mucky Tundra  
#30 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 7:37:08 PM(UTC)
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If I'm Taylor, Bostick or Stoneburner, I'd be REAL worried seeing this picture.
wpr  
#31 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 8:47:27 PM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
And don't forget the biggest shithead of them all: Brett Favre. But all his "skeletons" were put in a vault not a closet.


Take that back. St Brat never did anything wrong.
uffda udfa  
#32 Posted : Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:05:42 PM(UTC)
Ted? Ted? Have you woken up yet? I'm sure he's just torturing this guy making him sweat it out so that he feels no entitlement. To have to think that it came down to a non slam dunk decision on a freaking tryout to be the 89th or 90th guy on a roster is an attention getter.

The kid will be signed and we'll have our next gem of a UDFA. Please, don't implode.
play2win  
#33 Posted : Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:19:35 PM(UTC)
uffda udfa said: Go to Quoted Post
Ted? Ted? Have you woken up yet? I'm sure he's just torturing this guy making him sweat it out so that he feels no entitlement. To have to think that it came down to a non slam dunk decision on a freaking tryout to be the 89th or 90th guy on a roster is an attention getter.

The kid will be signed and we'll have our next gem of a UDFA. Please, don't implode.


I was not at all for bringing this guy in, but I have to give this staff credit for their ability to give another person a second chance, and an opportunity to redeem themselves. They know what they are doing.

Maybe he makes it.
uffda udfa  
#34 Posted : Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:39:12 PM(UTC)
If Finley was healthy, they would've never touched him...desperation causes all kinds of questionable decisions.

What I think a lot of people are missing with Lyerla is his true risk factor. Let's say he does overcome his issues and becomes an integral part of this team... Let's say next year there is a stud TE prospect but we pass on him because we have Lyerla. The next season Lyerla goes off the reservation and gets himself suspended for a year...then what? What if he becomes a big part of us in season and then does something stupid and we have to switch gears mid course? Yeah, we did that with the loss of Finley, but I'd hate to see us get in with Colt and watch him fall out. That is his risk. I love they're willing to take it and believe in the best but the risk has only just begun with this guy.
play2win  
#35 Posted : Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:59:18 PM(UTC)
Yeah, I can see that, big time. But, this is an organization that prides itself on the character of the locker room. They do have some great experience on this front with Koren Robinson and Johnny Jolly. They must feel confident they can deal with whatever comes their way with Colt.

I would not count out either of Finley nor Bostick at this point. They just love Finley, so much so that they kept his locker in tact after he has become a FA. That carries meaning. And, Bostick is nearly a Finley clone, a player who could very well take that next step.
nerdmann  
#36 Posted : Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:50:11 PM(UTC)
uffda udfa said: Go to Quoted Post
If Finley was healthy, they would've never touched him...desperation causes all kinds of questionable decisions.

What I think a lot of people are missing with Lyerla is his true risk factor. Let's say he does overcome his issues and becomes an integral part of this team... Let's say next year there is a stud TE prospect but we pass on him because we have Lyerla. The next season Lyerla goes off the reservation and gets himself suspended for a year...then what? What if he becomes a big part of us in season and then does something stupid and we have to switch gears mid course? Yeah, we did that with the loss of Finley, but I'd hate to see us get in with Colt and watch him fall out. That is his risk. I love they're willing to take it and believe in the best but the risk has only just begun with this guy.


If he doesn't work out, then we won't be any worse off than we would have been anyway.

All upside, imo. Worst case scenario he gives the team a black eye before he's sent packing.
DakotaT  
#37 Posted : Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:31:12 PM(UTC)
So did our new problem child get signed or not?
DakotaT  
#38 Posted : Sunday, May 18, 2014 7:03:36 PM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
Take that back. St Brat never did anything wrong.


Not happening. Putting that purple jersey on removed him from sainthood for many of us. His past is fair game.
beast  
#39 Posted : Sunday, May 18, 2014 7:41:11 PM(UTC)
gbguy20 said: Go to Quoted Post
Based on what I have seen posted on here, the guy has to have more potential than at least 1 of our other UDFA's.

Unless they all have people ranting and raving over how talented they are.


Maybe more potential physical talent than any of the other UDFA's, but also maybe potential to be a PR nightmare than anyone else on the entire roster...

The questions to sign Lyerla or not have NOTHING to do with his physical talent/potential, and everything to do with does he have his head on straight and is he a ticking time bomb to get into a ton of trouble or not.

Talent/potential wise Lyerla could been a top 3 rounds guy... heck if he got his off the field act together he might of been a top 2 round guy. But he didn't get his act together, between the emotional outburst, lack of self control, drugs (cocane) and government conspiracies theories only 3 teams even showed up for his pro-day and NO ONE seemingly was willing to signed a potential top 2 round potential talent to even an UDFA contract right away.


Yerko  
#40 Posted : Sunday, May 18, 2014 8:20:46 PM(UTC)
Looks like a beast in that 2012 highlight tape and I don't want to make this comparison, but he looks like an Aaron Hernandez-type tight end taking those hand offs. His explosiveness is ridiculous and he fights for yards...

The off-field stuff is a gigantic gamble though. Maybe Lyerla takes this opportunity given to him seriously since it was stated earlier that only three teams showed up to his pro-day. With the average ability of our current tight ends on the roster, I hope they take a chance on him.
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