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Offline nerdmann  
#1 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 12:38:56 PM(UTC)
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In any case, the Packers are finally responding to their problems pertaining to youth and health on defense in a "better late than never" sort of way.
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I am glad they didn't scapegoat Capers with the personnel issues they've had but if they are healthy and don't seriously improve I think it's been long enough.

If there ARE a bunch of injuries again I would be inclined to clean house all together. At that point I want a head coach who can address the issue with the staff he puts together. I think the repeated lead in players on IR isn't a coincidence.

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#3 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 9:20:01 PM(UTC)
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Capers' thing has always been compensation. We have been damn lucky to have him through the lean years personnel-wise and injury-wise.

It will be interesting to see how he coaches in a situation of plenty. Spot use of his schemes and tricks probably will still help, but I too hope it is more like McCarthy said - more emphasis on personnel and less on schemes.

I've always been a Capers supporter, and I expect him to handle things just fine.
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We arnt going to have Greene this year :( - that guy was a motivator. Never seen a coach with such intensity. I think Matthews with miss him the most.

On to Dom ... like him alot better then sanders ... but gets too conservative.
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#5 Posted : Friday, June 20, 2014 1:46:50 AM(UTC)
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Our defensive woes have had way more to do with personnel deficiencies and injuries than Dom Capers. It has taken Ted Thompson 3 years to finally replace the gaping hole left by Nick Collins' loss. I think we might be set now with Hyde, Richardson and Clinton-Dix added to Burnett at S.

Drafting players does not mean the position is automatically addressed. Many of these newly drafted players take about a year to acclimate to the pro game and physique.

Add to it we haven't seriously played in FA until this offseason, and our injuries being over the top, any DC would have struggled. Dom hasn't been perfect either, but I believe Dom Capers will have a great year if we stay healthy. It's been a while since he's had this much talent to work with.
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Our defensive woes have had way more to do with personnel deficiencies and injuries than Dom Capers. It has taken Ted Thompson 3 years to finally replace the gaping hole left by Nick Collins' loss. I think we might be set now with Hyde, Richardson and Clinton-Dix added to Burnett at S.

Drafting players does not mean the position is automatically addressed. Many of these newly drafted players take about a year to acclimate to the pro game and physique.

Add to it we haven't seriously played in FA until this offseason, and our injuries being over the top, any DC would have struggled. Dom hasn't been perfect either, but I believe Dom Capers will have a great year if we stay healthy. It's been a while since he's had this much talent to work with.


Dom needs to take the lead in making sure his guys are healthy. If this means standing over them while they stretch, going to yoga with them or cooking them dinner, then so be it. He can also keep guys like Matthews and Perry on a pitch count. That approach worked wonders for Starks last year.
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My problem with Dom is the sheer number of guys who seemingly cannot grasp his scheme (especially on the back end). If you have to keep more talented players on the bench because they don't know the defense as well as vets who aren't very good then you need to make an adjustment. He came in here in 2009 and improved our defense then in 2010 it was great, there weren't a ton of miscommunications and such that we've been seeing and that was only the first two years into the scheme.

It gives the feeling that Dom just kept adding onto his scheme even though a lot of the players that had been in it from day one had moved on for various reasons and the new guys were stuck trying to learn the year 4 or 5 scheme in year 1 or 2. Maybe that's not true and we've just drafted dumber players lately but who knows. Either way there's a reason McCarthy felt like he had to take more control this year. He seems like he was frustrated seeing young guys with loads of talent riding the bench while some underperforming guys kept getting thrown out there game after game.
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Dulak said: Go to Quoted Post
We arnt going to have Greene this year :( - that guy was a motivator. Never seen a coach with such intensity. I think Matthews with miss him the most.

On to Dom ... like him alot better then sanders ... but gets too conservative.


You don't need to be the lead singer of a death metal band to effectively coach. Yeah he yelled, yeah everyone knows what he told CM3 before the fumble in the SB, but the LB position has been one of the weakest positions on the team in recent years. Maybe it's personnel, but even so if he was irreplaceable you'd at least expect something resembling chicken salad out on the field the last few years.
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You don't need to be the lead singer of a death metal band to effectively coach. Yeah he yelled, yeah everyone knows what he told CM3 before the fumble in the SB, but the LB position has been one of the weakest positions on the team in recent years. Maybe it's personnel, but even so if he was irreplaceable you'd at least expect something resembling chicken salad out on the field the last few years.


I wouldn't say he's irreplaceable but I do think he maximized the talent of guys like Zombo and Walden and got the most out of the talent that was there. That doesn't mean he's the best or someone else can't do the same but I do think he was a good coach.
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I wouldn't say he's irreplaceable but I do think he maximized the talent of guys like Zombo and Walden and got the most out of the talent that was there. That doesn't mean he's the best or someone else can't do the same but I do think he was a good coach.


I think Greene was a WWF buffoon who we are better off without. It's more likely that the Capers scheme was responsible for the brief success of one-trick ponies like Zombo and Walden - setting them up to do what they could do and hopefully masking what they couldn't (although that mask occasionally slipped off).

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