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DoddPower  
#1 Posted : Monday, June 30, 2014 12:38:49 PM(UTC)
TotalPackers said:
Linebacker Carl Bradford is the latest guy the Green Bay Packers have drafted who's ticked he didn't go earlier. Will he reverse the trend of underperformance?


How pissed is he? I can't shake the feeling that this guy is going to be a bust. But if he becomes a solid special teams player it won't be that bad.
nerdmann  
#2 Posted : Monday, June 30, 2014 12:46:01 PM(UTC)
DoddPower said: Go to Quoted Post
How pissed is he? I can't shake the feeling that this guy is going to be a bust. But if he becomes a solid special teams player it won't be that bad.


Hopefully more so than Ricky Elmore.
musccy  
#3 Posted : Tuesday, July 1, 2014 6:45:31 AM(UTC)
Before I read the article I almost posted "Terrell Manning'' and then see they mentioned his name.

Pissed off chicken shit doesn't really mean much. Pissed off chicken salad (Aaron Rodgers)...well that gets me excited.
OlHoss1884  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, July 1, 2014 7:17:59 AM(UTC)
I think sometimes these kids come out of college, where they were the best on their teams, thinking they are going to be as big a deal in the NFL. There is a reason most don't go in the first round. I wonder if this is just another guy who doesn't really understand how much better EVERYONE is at this level.

Chip on the shoulder is good, and I hope it motivates him, but if he really thinks he's that good, he needs to outwork everyone to prove it.
Pack93z  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, July 1, 2014 7:19:39 AM(UTC)
Whether he develops into a player with a decent impact on the team or not.. I overall think we need more of this attitude on this club. It is okay to have a chip on your shcoulder... be a little pissed off. Better than some of the flat performances that we have seen sporatically over the last couple years.
musccy  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, July 1, 2014 8:39:58 AM(UTC)
Pack93z said: Go to Quoted Post
Whether he develops into a player with a decent impact on the team or not.. I overall think we need more of this attitude on this club. It is okay to have a chip on your shcoulder... be a little pissed off. Better than some of the flat performances that we have seen sporatically over the last couple years.

Agreed. I like Daniels' bravado as well, so it's a good first step. Obviously he and other guys like Colt need to do more than say the right things, though.


nerdmann  
#7 Posted : Tuesday, July 1, 2014 12:55:12 PM(UTC)
musccy said: Go to Quoted Post
Agreed. I like Daniels' bravado as well, so it's a good first step. Obviously he and other guys like Colt need to do more than say the right things, though.




They get their shot in about three weeks. Can't wait!
Dexter_Sinister  
#8 Posted : Tuesday, July 1, 2014 7:02:54 PM(UTC)
I was thinking that Bradford reminded me a little of Al Noga.

He should fit in pretty well with Daniels, who reminds me of John Randel.
DarkaneRules  
#9 Posted : Tuesday, July 1, 2014 7:27:53 PM(UTC)
Bradford and Hubbard are very interesting prospects. The outside linebacker position is always a favorite of mine to watch during the pre-season. Wondering if either of these guys becomes this offseason's Vic So'oto. Remember that guy!? He was popular for a week :)
uffda udfa  
#10 Posted : Wednesday, July 2, 2014 1:56:53 PM(UTC)
DarkaneRules said: Go to Quoted Post
Bradford and Hubbard are very interesting prospects. The outside linebacker position is always a favorite of mine to watch during the pre-season. Wondering if either of these guys becomes this offseason's Vic So'oto. Remember that guy!? He was popular for a week :)


So'oto! I loved that guy. What a game he had vs. KC in the pre-season. Just insanely good.

Bradford, based on measurables, has a high risk of busting especially at OLB position. I'm very surprised we took him to use him at OLB. ILB seems to make so much more sense based on what he is physically.

Like you, I can't wait to see who this year's UDFA darling is? That is one of the many reasons I love pre-season football.

It'll be interesting to see if they would cut Bradford, if he fails to impress during TC and preseason, without giving him a shot at ILB.
musccy  
#11 Posted : Wednesday, July 2, 2014 2:10:37 PM(UTC)
uffda udfa said: Go to Quoted Post


It'll be interesting to see if they would cut Bradford, if he fails to impress during TC and preseason, without giving him a shot at ILB.


From my 2 minutes of research, the last top 5 round picks I could find that the Packers cut in the year they drafted him were Jamon Meredith and Ingle Martin (5th Rd). I'm assuming the Packers will do all they can to give Bradford a shot.
nyrpack  
#12 Posted : Friday, July 4, 2014 8:20:29 AM(UTC)
you can play with a chip on your shoulder all you want, the problem is that chip weghs down too many guys, gotta be able to handle the chip ala aaron rodgers !!
play2win  
#13 Posted : Friday, July 4, 2014 8:40:50 AM(UTC)
Yeah, the article and his statements really mean so little. We have to wait and see what he can do opposite Matthews. That's what I want to see, and if he cannot make an impact there, i think he can at ILB. I will be pulling for Bradford to be a force on the left side to start the season, with Perry moved to the right side backing up Matthews.

Chips on shoulders are a dime a dozen. All I want to see is great OLB play on that side of our front 7, something we have not seen in a very long time with any consistency.
Wade  
#14 Posted : Friday, July 4, 2014 9:19:30 AM(UTC)
The one pick of the draft I liked -- and they're planning on using him at OLB instead of ILB. ARGH!!!!!!

ARGH!!!!!!!!!!

ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wallme] Confused WTF
StarrMax1  
#15 Posted : Friday, July 4, 2014 9:34:50 AM(UTC)
I think we all have to wait to see how these guys play in pre-season.

With Ted standing pat at the ILB position, signing Peppers, holding on to Mike Neal, I am betting there will not be many situations where The Packers actually have Hawk and Jones/Lattimore or whoever ends up being the listed "starting" ILBr's on the field at the same time.

With so many teams using 3 sometimes 4 WR sets, and using the so called "hybrid" TE, H-Back, whatever term you want to use, I see The Packers dropping an extra Safety in(hello M. Hyde), or using Peppers on the inside.

The Packers base 3-4 defense, IMO, will not be seen much this year, and maybe Bradford will show he can be that LB who can move around, but I think this year he will be asked to do what he has shown he does best.....Rush The QB!!!!
DarkaneRules  
#16 Posted : Friday, July 4, 2014 11:43:57 AM(UTC)
StarrMax nailed it. The Packers have a plan on defense that I cannot wait to see unveiled. All the information seems to point an increased use of sub-packages, guys moving around, and the defense as a whole becoming more versatile in their packages.

All indications from the team is that the players will start training at the position with the least amount of transition from what they did in college. After they show the ability to play that position, they will consider moving them around and/or trying other positions.

They did this with Brad Jones when they moved him from OLB to ILB, and most of us assume they will do the same with Bradford.
Zero2Cool  
#17 Posted : Friday, July 11, 2014 12:42:49 PM(UTC)
DoddPower said: Go to Quoted Post
How pissed is he? I can't shake the feeling that this guy is going to be a bust. But if he becomes a solid special teams player it won't be that bad.


Since when can a 4th rounder be a bust lol
DoddPower  
#18 Posted : Friday, July 11, 2014 12:55:05 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Since when can a 4th rounder be a bust lol


Since always? It's all relative. I generally expect 4th rounders to contribute to the team. If they do little-to-nothing, it's disappointing and they could be labeled a bust. The magnitude of the bust isn't as big as a first round pick, but still a bust, imo.
Zero2Cool  
#19 Posted : Friday, July 11, 2014 1:07:01 PM(UTC)
DoddPower said: Go to Quoted Post
Since always? It's all relative. I generally expect 4th rounders to contribute to the team. If they do little-to-nothing, it's disappointing and they could be labeled a bust. The magnitude of the bust isn't as big as a first round pick, but still a bust, imo.


If he doesn't make the 53, I suppoose I can see your point. If he makes the 53 and is a solid "breath" player and contributes on special teams, I wouldn't expect a whole bunch more out of him for his rookie year.
DoddPower  
#20 Posted : Friday, July 11, 2014 1:15:42 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
If he doesn't make the 53, I suppoose I can see your point. If he makes the 53 and is a solid "breath" player and contributes on special teams, I wouldn't expect a whole bunch more out of him for his rookie year.


I can agree with that, but I was talking more in terms of his entire career as a Green Bay Packer. I definitely don't expect much from him his rookie year, but that's to be expected.
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