walleye
15 years ago

Defense!
There is nothing better than stuffing the hole.
If they can't score they can't win, if there is an exception to that, I don't know about it.

"yooperfan" wrote:


:physassult: :physassult: Yes STUFF THE HOLE!!
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wpr
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15 years ago
Defense. I agree with UP Fan, If the other team does not score you will increase your odds of winning.
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Packnic
15 years ago

Defense!
There is nothing better than stuffing the hole.
If they can't score they can't win, if there is an exception to that, I don't know about it.

"yooperfan" wrote:




the only exception would be ... if you dont score you dont win.


everyone keeps bringing the Ravens up. but really they only won 1 SB with that killer defense, while San Fran, New England and Dallas won multiple multiple SBs in a row with innovative offensive schemes. WCO, Dink and Dunk, and the Big 3.


I would typically say Defense because of all the reason listed above, but also a great D with a weak O leads to a lot of close games that in this day and age are harder to close out with defense. Personally i would rather be in a situation to put my offense on the field in a 2 minute drill in the 4th quarter than rely on my defense. That way you are dictating your own outcome rather than reacting to the opponent.

Plus overall i think a great offense trumps a great defense any day, because you always have the advantage of knowing whats coming. A good offense is able to evolve and adapt making it harder to figure out defensively. You have a better chance of adding wrinkles and formations to a great offense than you do to a defense... making it harder to figure out. every base defense has a weakness... so when your QB comes to the line you line... he has the advantage of adding audibles a defense wont suspect.

So my answer is... as long as its an innovative, evolving top 5 offense with an average defense. id take that. Sorry this was long... i just love topics like this.
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Pack93z
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15 years ago

Defense!
There is nothing better than stuffing the hole.
If they can't score they can't win, if there is an exception to that, I don't know about it.

"Packnic" wrote:




the only exception would be ... if you dont score you dont win.


everyone keeps bringing the Ravens up. but really they only won 1 SB with that killer defense, while San Fran, New England and Dallas won multiple multiple SBs in a row with innovative offensive schemes. WCO, Dink and Dunk, and the Big 3.


I would typically say Defense because of all the reason listed above, but also a great D with a weak O leads to a lot of close games that in this day and age are harder to close out with defense. Personally i would rather be in a situation to put my offense on the field in a 2 minute drill in the 4th quarter than rely on my defense. That way you are dictating your own outcome rather than reacting to the opponent.

Plus overall i think a great offense trumps a great defense any day, because you always have the advantage of knowing whats coming. A good offense is able to evolve and adapt making it harder to figure out defensively. You have a better chance of adding wrinkles and formations to a great offense than you do to a defense... making it harder to figure out. every base defense has a weakness... so when your QB comes to the line you line... he has the advantage of adding audibles a defense wont suspect.

So my answer is... as long as its an innovative, evolving top 5 offense with an average defense. id take that. Sorry this was long... i just love topics like this.

"yooperfan" wrote:



That right there.. even if I don't agree with the philosophy is the reason I stick around on these boards.. well besides a laugh here and there.

A look into the mind of another fan with the detailed thoughts on why they believe it to be as such.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
WhiskeySam
15 years ago

Defense!
There is nothing better than stuffing the hole.
If they can't score they can't win, if there is an exception to that, I don't know about it.

"Packnic" wrote:




the only exception would be ... if you dont score you dont win.


everyone keeps bringing the Ravens up. but really they only won 1 SB with that killer defense, while San Fran, New England and Dallas won multiple multiple SBs in a row with innovative offensive schemes. WCO, Dink and Dunk, and the Big 3.


I would typically say Defense because of all the reason listed above, but also a great D with a weak O leads to a lot of close games that in this day and age are harder to close out with defense. Personally i would rather be in a situation to put my offense on the field in a 2 minute drill in the 4th quarter than rely on my defense. That way you are dictating your own outcome rather than reacting to the opponent.

Plus overall i think a great offense trumps a great defense any day, because you always have the advantage of knowing whats coming. A good offense is able to evolve and adapt making it harder to figure out defensively. You have a better chance of adding wrinkles and formations to a great offense than you do to a defense... making it harder to figure out. every base defense has a weakness... so when your QB comes to the line you line... he has the advantage of adding audibles a defense wont suspect.

So my answer is... as long as its an innovative, evolving top 5 offense with an average defense. id take that. Sorry this was long... i just love topics like this.

"yooperfan" wrote:



Very well put. A good example of this was the Rams win over the Bucs to go to the Supr Bowl. #1 D vs #1 O. #1 O by a nose.
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Trippster
15 years ago

Defense!
There is nothing better than stuffing the hole.
If they can't score they can't win, if there is an exception to that, I don't know about it.

"yooperfan" wrote:



I wounder 4 if there pack is anyone around here girl that would passionately agree or disagree.
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Packnic
15 years ago


Very well put. A good example of this was the Rams win over the Bucs to go to the Supr Bowl. #1 D vs #1 O. #1 O by a nose.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:




thats a great example. i would love to have a great defense, and its proven to win games and championships. but if you had to pick just one, I would pick being the aggressor rather than reading and reacting.
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4PackGirl
15 years ago

Defense!
There is nothing better than stuffing the hole.
If they can't score they can't win, if there is an exception to that, I don't know about it.

"Trippster" wrote:



I wounder 4 if there pack is anyone around here girl that would passionately agree or disagree.

"yooperfan" wrote:



HEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tee hee. :birdman:
IronMan
15 years ago


Very well put. A good example of this was the Rams win over the Bucs to go to the Supr Bowl. #1 D vs #1 O. #1 O by a nose.

"Packnic" wrote:




thats a great example. i would love to have a great defense, and its proven to win games and championships. but if you had to pick just one, I would pick being the aggressor rather than reading and reacting.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:


What people forget though, is St Louis had a really good defense that year too. The Bucs allowed 235 points that year(3rd in the NFL), and the Rams allowed 242(4th in the NFL).
Packnic
15 years ago


Very well put. A good example of this was the Rams win over the Bucs to go to the Supr Bowl. #1 D vs #1 O. #1 O by a nose.

"IronMan" wrote:




thats a great example. i would love to have a great defense, and its proven to win games and championships. but if you had to pick just one, I would pick being the aggressor rather than reading and reacting.

"Packnic" wrote:


What people forget though, is St Louis had a really good defense that year too. The Bucs allowed 235 points that year(3rd in the NFL), and the Rams allowed 242(4th in the NFL).

"WhiskeySam" wrote:




you know thats another great point. the same can be said for the Cowboys and Patriots dynasties. Those were also great defenses.

So maybe its those great, yet underrated defenses that made the offenses able to do what they did. Or maybe the offenses by keeping the D fresh made the D better. well now im confused.


I think the best answers is C.) Both
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