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Offline uffda udfa  
#1 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 4:16:50 PM(UTC)
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"As a freshman I compared him to Gronkowski," said another AFC scout. "They played him at tight end, H-back, fullback. In high school he was one of the top rushers in the nation.

http://www.nfl.com/news/...better-than-gronk-graham

I was as excited about Colt's addition as I was any of the draft picks. This is the kind of guy we need at TE... a "monster, beast, monster". Tough as nails and fast at 4.61. Can run over people. He looked to struggle catching it in the combine video linked in that article.

Why he is considered such a long shot is beyond me. It is more than his off field stuff that people seem to discredit him for. Being out of football etc give some the idea he has little chance. If there was ever an NFL TE situation made for a darkhorse to emerge victorious it would be Green Bay's current situation.

I don't see how he doesn't make it if the org is comfortable with him off the field not to say that isn't a major reason not to hang onto him.

Pretty exciting to me that our most talented player could come from a tryout vs. our 1st rounder through 7th round picks. A little bit Shields like.

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#2 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 4:56:47 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: uffda udfa Go to Quoted Post


Pretty exciting to me that our most talented player could come from a tryout vs. our 1st rounder through 7th round picks. A little bit Shields like.

Go Colt!


And which awesome GM plucked these exceptional athletes out of thin air, Uffda?
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#3 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 5:01:35 PM(UTC)
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He could but it's not likely, that would be nice though. It's not just his off the field stuff that kept him from being drafted. It was probably missing a year of football and the fact that he never really put together a good season in college like he was expected to do coming out of HS. The off the field stuff is certainly a big reason for that but it doesn't change the fact that he hasn't proven to be a dominant player on the field yet.

Hopefully he proves himself on the field for GB and helps us win some games.
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#4 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 5:03:26 PM(UTC)
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And which awesome GM plucked these exceptional athletes out of thin air, Uffda?


Well, you could look at it that it's pretty sad your most physically gifted player arrived on a tryout not in the 1st round.

I think it also speaks to the fact we have such a dearth of talent at TE that we were the only team in the NFL desperate enough to touch him. I give Ted Thompson kudos for acknowledging how brutal our TE situation is and giving this guy a go.




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#5 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 5:04:44 PM(UTC)
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I have a good feeling about the tight end position. By the end of the year we'll be saying Jermichael who?
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#6 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 5:07:15 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
He could but it's not likely, that would be nice though. It's not just his off the field stuff that kept him from being drafted. It was probably missing a year of football and the fact that he never really put together a good season in college like he was expected to do coming out of HS. The off the field stuff is certainly a big reason for that but it doesn't change the fact that he hasn't proven to be a dominant player on the field yet.

Hopefully he proves himself on the field for GB and helps us win some games.


Who does your description sound like? I would say it sounds very similar to Sam Shields. What did Sam do at THE U to be able to make this team? He was a converted WR and not a very good one.

If he can't make it in Green Bay he shouldn't be able to make it anywhere else.

Jolly was out of football for how long and came back and played very well for us. Talent is talent. You have it or you don't and he has it. I couldn't care less about time away not doing this or that. The question is does he have NFL ability and can he stay out of trouble. I'm hoping both are big YES'es.
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#7 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 5:50:43 PM(UTC)
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Scouts do a hell of a job. It is quite a lifestyle to commit to. Anywho, this Colt guy has all the physical tools to be great just like a lot of these guys do. The key is for him to be mentally committed to his role on the team, his teammates, and his coaches. All we hear is how much potential he has. These are the guys that become great stories if they pan out because he is definitely not the only player in the NFL that has made some questionable decisions in the past. Let's see what he's made out of. Can't wait.
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#8 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 6:00:57 PM(UTC)
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It's a perfect situation for him, and for the team. Win-win situation.

This is where it really pays to have a GM with a reputation for finding undrafted players. Guys who weren't drafted, but for whatever reason still have skills KNOW they can come here and have a chance. This guy just happens to also fill a position of need.

Still, he's gotta earn it, and the fact that they called him out in the paper is an early red flag.
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#9 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 7:11:07 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules Go to Quoted Post
Scouts do a hell of a job. It is quite a lifestyle to commit to. Anywho, this Colt guy has all the physical tools to be great just like a lot of these guys do. The key is for him to be mentally committed to his role on the team, his teammates, and his coaches. All we hear is how much potential he has. These are the guys that become great stories if they pan out because he is definitely not the only player in the NFL that has made some questionable decisions in the past. Let's see what he's made out of. Can't wait.


His numbers at the combine are actually close to Graham's.

Better vertical, better broad jump, close to the same 40, same 20 yard split and same reps on the bench.

Lyerla was also out of football most of the year before he participated.

His numbers were pretty much better than Gronk's except for bench.
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#10 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 7:31:08 PM(UTC)
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#11 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 9:23:20 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: uffda udfa Go to Quoted Post
Well, you could look at it that it's pretty sad your most physically gifted player arrived on a tryout not in the 1st round.


I think I figured out why you dislike Thompson so much (or at least one of the reasons)... you want the best physically gifted guys... where as Thompson wants the best football players... of course I assume you're going to point out the best physically gifted guys should be the best football players, but I would point out a number of players have proven that idea wrong.

I still strongly remember after the 2007 draft, fans seemed to STRONGLY dislike that Thompson wasted a 3rd round draft pick on a WR that ran a 4.6 ... but were a bit alright with it because he drafted a speed demon WR that ran a sub 4.4 who would make up for him....

That wasted pick... was WR James Jones. The speed demon was David Clowney... just because they're more athletic doesn't mean they're the better football player. Though to be fair to Clowney, I think I heard he lead the NFL in receiver yards during the preseason 3 straight years with the Jets (kept giving the Jets fans hope...).

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa Go to Quoted Post
Why he is considered such a long shot is beyond me. It is more than his off field stuff that people seem to discredit him for. Being out of football etc give some the idea he has little chance.



Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
It's not just his off the field stuff that kept him from being drafted. It was probably missing a year of football and the fact that he never really put together a good season in college like he was expected to do


That's a big part of it... a lot of the Lyerla hype is being he flashes a ton of potential... but he hasn't really taken that potential and turned it into a consistent dominant player, which clearly he has that potential to do but he hasn't really taken over a game.

Lyerla has the raw potential to be amazing, the reason I think people are doubting is because his lack of progress in developing that raw talent... of course if it was simply a mental thing and now he's got it together... he might be able to flip the switch right away... but I think most people are thinking it's going to take time.



Originally Posted by: uffda udfa Go to Quoted Post
Who does your description sound like? I would say it sounds very similar to Sam Shields. What did Sam do at THE U to be able to make this team? He was a converted WR and not a very good one.


Yeah I agree a bit... but there are some big differences between the two... Shields switch positions VERY VERY late in college and had one year under his belt... where Lyerla is playing the same position as he through out college. Also I think Lyerla has better coaching than Shields did... or at least I assume since his head coach became an NFL head coach, that they're good coaches, where I strongly questioned Shields coaches down in Miami... they had a lot of physical talented guys and almost none of them were developing much it seemed for a while down there.
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#12 Posted : Monday, July 14, 2014 8:20:20 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: uffda udfa Go to Quoted Post
Well, you could look at it that it's pretty sad your most physically gifted player arrived on a tryout not in the 1st round.

I think it also speaks to the fact we have such a dearth of talent at TE that we were the only team in the NFL desperate enough to touch him. I give Ted Thompson kudos for acknowledging how brutal our TE situation is and giving this guy a go.






Yeah, I know I would be happier if we had taken him in the first round? Maybe it's a testament to Teds ability to know that no one else would touch him so why risk anything more than he absolutely had to.

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#13 Posted : Monday, July 14, 2014 9:07:22 AM(UTC)
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Manziel may become a greater QB than either Manning.
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There is no end in the things that might happen.

This Lyerla hysteria is annoying. 32 teams spent millions of dollars to scout players. Not a single team used one of the 256 draft picks to select him. Teams picked players with broken bones, rebuilt knees, and Marijuana issues. The Rams selected a player that they knew would bring a media circus to town. Yet not one team picked Lyerla. Is it because NFL teams don't want to win? Is it becuase all 32 teams accidentally left him off their draft board? Does this forum really believe that we are individually much smarter than all of the professional scouts and team management? HE HAS MAJOR ISSUES. We don't know how bad they are, but for 32 teams to pass, they are major. The odds for him to even make the roster are about 1:20. The odds for him to be a player of major impact about 1:300. But it can happen.
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#14 Posted : Monday, July 14, 2014 9:30:24 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan Go to Quoted Post
Manziel may become a greater QB than either Manning.
Michael Sam may become a better DL than Howie Long.
Richard Sherman may change sides and become a better WR than Deion.
Green Bay Packers may change their name to the Eastern WI Drunken Palefaces.
Brett Favre may be hired as the 2015 Head Coach of the Packers.
There is no end in the things that might happen.

This Lyerla hysteria is annoying. 32 teams spent millions of dollars to scout players. Not a single team used one of the 256 draft picks to select him. Teams picked players with broken bones, rebuilt knees, and Marijuana issues. The Rams selected a player that they knew would bring a media circus to town. Yet not one team picked Lyerla. Is it because NFL teams don't want to win? Is it becuase all 32 teams accidentally left him off their draft board? Does this forum really believe that we are individually much smarter than all of the professional scouts and team management? HE HAS MAJOR ISSUES. We don't know how bad they are, but for 32 teams to pass, they are major. The odds for him to even make the roster are about 1:20. The odds for him to be a player of major impact about 1:300. But it can happen.



The odds can be better for a player with behavior issues. Teams may not want to risk the problems and pass on the talent.

So the odds may be more if he can stay out of trouble than if he can be as good of a player.

He may be a great player but not have a great career. If Gronk can't stay healthy, he may be in the same category, but for a different reason.
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#15 Posted : Monday, July 14, 2014 12:44:27 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: sschind Go to Quoted Post
Yeah, I know I would be happier if we had taken him in the first round? Maybe it's a testament to Teds ability to know that no one else would touch him so why risk anything more than he absolutely had to.



I don't understand why anyone would dislike the fact that our "most physically gifted player" was a tryout player instead of a top pick. I thought the point of the draft, undrafted free-agency, and the tryout process was to acquire as much talent as possible while spending as little as possible. If he pans out this would be a huge bargain, which last time I checked is nothing to be disappointed about.

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