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Offline Dexter_Sinister  
#11 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2014 6:31:40 PM(UTC)
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I think the big difference is that going back in to 2012, they Packers have been able to move the ball running with just about every RB they put back there. If that keeps up, Lacy should have another good year.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2014 8:25:12 PM(UTC)
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I'm thinking the chances are very slim that Lacy with be like Trent Richardson

At his best Richardson has averaged 3.6 yards per run in an NFL season... at his worse Lacy has averaged 4.1 yards per run in an NFL season and that was while he was banged up and basically had his starting QB miss half the season with some questionable back-ups...
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I always prefer Packer comparisons. I don't think Lacy will follow the path of Trent Richardson. I do think there is a serious likelihood that he will follow the path of John Brockington.

And when I read a story like the recent one that talks about the Packers wanting to use him *more*, I think that likelihood gets bigger.

I love the kind of running back he is. But that's not the kind of running back that has a lot of longevity at 300+ touches/year.
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#14 Posted : Friday, July 18, 2014 7:52:09 AM(UTC)
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Wade said: Go to Quoted Post
I always prefer Packer comparisons. I don't think Lacy will follow the path of Trent Richardson. I do think there is a serious likelihood that he will follow the path of John Brockington.

And when I read a story like the recent one that talks about the Packers wanting to use him *more*, I think that likelihood gets bigger.

I love the kind of running back he is. But that's not the kind of running back that has a lot of longevity at 300+ touches/year.


There have been articles both ways... some saying the Packers want to use him more... but Mike McCarthy has also been quoted in saying he wants to limit the number of snaps Lacy sees in a game and try to spread them out so he stays healthier and longer into the season.
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Wade said: Go to Quoted Post
I always prefer Packer comparisons. I don't think Lacy will follow the path of Trent Richardson. I do think there is a serious likelihood that he will follow the path of John Brockington.

And when I read a story like the recent one that talks about the Packers wanting to use him *more*, I think that likelihood gets bigger.

I love the kind of running back he is. But that's not the kind of running back that has a lot of longevity at 300+ touches/year.


Yeah, I wouldn't expect Lacy to have a lengthy productive career. Simply too much punishment to his body. Hopefully the Packers can win another championship while he is in his prime. The combination of Rodgers, Lacy/Starks, Nelson, Cobb, Boykin, et al. is a pretty sweet combination. Should be another exciting offensive season. Although I'm still worried about the defense.
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When you have someone like James Starks fresh, why would pound the hell out of Eddie Lacy 20-25 times a game? Keep him between 15-20 while rotating James Starks. Then you can even toss in DuJuan Harris a spell or two.

RB's just aren't as strong as they used to be to handle the 350-400 carries a season.
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Read this from NFL.com. Lacy, himself, will not evoke strong confidence that he loves football when you're done reading.

It is always amazing how much of a disconnect there is sometimes between perception and reality.


http://www.nfl.com/news/...-my-passion-for-football

Heck, some won't read it just because I posted the link...Here is what he had to say when he was telling about scouts questioning his passion for the game from NFL.com

Asked if football has ever brought him true joy, Lacy replied, "It has its moments, I guess you could say. It was a lot better for me (in Gretna, La.), though. Football is not what it was to me in high school now."

EDIT: Here's some more alarming stuff regarding Lacy from NationalFootballPost.com:

*Numerous front office men say there were not surprised to see Eddie Lacy fall to the Packers at the end of the second round. The more NFL teams looked at him, the more faults they saw. Lacy was knocked for poor work habits, lack of speed, durability concerns, a limited body of work and running style.


I remember reading all of this leading up to that draft. Lacy is a broken man (child) from Hurricane Katrina. It stole everything from him, including his love for football. Notice he mentions high school football in Louisiana...he played like 2 years in Texas and didn't even care for it then. That storm has ruined a part of him.

With that said, watching him play his first year for the Packers and how he interacts with his fans through Twitter makes me think he has changed. Maybe not a lot, but there is a glimpse of passion that he shows.
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He may have changed, Yerko... I didn't say he was any of the things highlighted above. However, it is a big concern where his attitude may take him. I don't know that I'm confident he'll continue to incline because it doesn't sound like he's the type of guy who wants it bad enough. He did run hard his rookie season. I thought we got much more than I expected from him, especially after Aaron went down.

It is a bit of a pattern that Ted Thompson will take these once highly touted guys who are falling in the draft and make them Packers. Worthy, Lacy, Rodgers, Bulaga, Bradford, Franklin, etc. Oftentimes when a guy is sliding, and it's not an off the field type situation thing like with a Harvin or a Moss there's good reason for it...they aren't really that good when looked at closely long enough. Thank goodness, Aaron defied all that and was more of a "nobody needed a QB" type of a fall situation. Hopefully, Eddie will prove to be a miss by the NFL community and a hit by TT.
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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
When you have someone like James Starks fresh, why would pound the hell out of Eddie Lacy 20-25 times a game? Keep him between 15-20 while rotating James Starks. Then you can even toss in DuJuan Harris a spell or two.

RB's just aren't as strong as they used to be to handle the 350-400 carries a season.


I agree 100% but I'm not sure Mike McCarthy does. As far back as I can remember it seems the Packers have always been a 1 back team when that #1 back is healthy. They say different but they run the guy into the dirt anyway. In their defense though, as long as running backs are being perceived as a dime a dozen and you have a guy like Starks who you think can step in and fill the void why not run the #1 until he drops and simply plug the next guy in. I don't agree but it is a way of thinking.

Besides, Fantasy people want to be able to count on Lacy getting 25-30 touches per game and drafting Starks as his handcuff.
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I agree 100% but I'm not sure Mike McCarthy does. As far back as I can remember it seems the Packers have always been a 1 back team when that #1 back is healthy. They say different but they run the guy into the dirt anyway. In their defense though, as long as running backs are being perceived as a dime a dozen and you have a guy like Starks who you think can step in and fill the void why not run the #1 until he drops and simply plug the next guy in. I don't agree but it is a way of thinking.

Besides, Fantasy people want to be able to count on Lacy getting 25-30 touches per game and drafting Starks as his handcuff.


The secret to why they've appeared to run one guy into the dirt comes down to one factoid. Only one RB on the roster was trustworthy in pass protection. If John Kuhn was as gifted as Starks or even Lacy, he'd be in on every single play.

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