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beast  
#41 Posted : Friday, July 18, 2014 11:57:31 AM(UTC)
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I agree 100% but I'm not sure Mike McCarthy does. As far back as I can remember it seems the Packers have always been a 1 back team when that #1 back is healthy. They say different but they run the guy into the dirt anyway.


I think part of the reasons it seems like that is because the Packers haven't often had two good RBs healthy at the same time (I mean how often have they had one good RB healthy at any given point before this last season, must less two)... also because I think Mike McCarthy wanted a RB that could do it all and have limited switching guys during drives, other than Brandon Jackson or John Kuhn as the 3rd down guy maybe if needed.

But if the RBs stay healthy (who knows if that's gonna to happen or not) I think Mike McCarthy finally figured out how to use RBs to fit his vision better... last year instead of switching them in and out, when they were healthy, Mike McCarthy would let Lacy be the #1 guy, but then would also give Starks full drives (and take Lacy out for the whole drive)... so they didn't have to switch RB during the whole time (unless they wanted Kuhn in as the 3rd down guy)... and it seemed like the Packers were trying to get special packages going with Franklin and the offense would be a bit different with him in the game, because defenses are going to play him differently than they would say Lacy. Which some of those packages might go to Harris now... and it'll be interesting to see how defenses play him and how he does.

I still wonder if a 4th RB can step up and get to the 53 man roster... which might be nice to have, with Lacy's physical running style and Starks injury history... as a just in guess guy. From looking at highlight RB Rajion Neal has some good talent, he might not be ready as a rookie, but I think he could have decent NFL career.
yooperfan  
#42 Posted : Friday, July 18, 2014 1:46:23 PM(UTC)
I don't think Lacy will be a 1 year wonder.
I agree with Wades John Brockington comparison. The Packers ran him into the ground for three years and discarded him.

I watched his interview with Larry McCarren last year and I came away with the impression he didn't plan on sticking around very long.
Zero2Cool  
#43 Posted : Friday, July 18, 2014 1:54:12 PM(UTC)
yooperfan said: Go to Quoted Post
I don't think Lacy will be a 1 year wonder.

I agree with Wades John Brockington comparison. The Packers ran him into the ground for three years and discarded him.

I watched his interview with Larry McCarren last year and I came away with the impression he didn't plan on sticking around very long.


Over four full seasons ... 216, 274, 265 and 266 attempts per season which is about 15-19 carries a game. I don't see that as running him into the ground. He only topped 20 receptions once in those four years which that total was 43.

Barry Sanders averaged 20 carries throughout his entire 10 year career.


btw, if Wade had compared Eddie Lacy to Barry Sanders, this would have been taken an entire different direction lol
yooperfan  
#44 Posted : Friday, July 18, 2014 2:04:44 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Over four full seasons ... 216, 274, 265 and 266 attempts per season which is about 15-19 carries a game. I don't see that as running him into the ground. He only topped 20 receptions once in those four years which that total was 43.

Barry Sanders averaged 20 carries throughout his entire 10 year career.


btw, if Wade had compared Eddie Lacy to Barry Sanders, this would have been taken an entire different direction lol


Brockington averaged 5.1 in his 1st year in 1971 and 3.3 in his last year in 74.
He was toast after 3 years.

uffda udfa  
#45 Posted : Friday, July 18, 2014 2:22:05 PM(UTC)
Adrian Peterson had 1406 NFL carries and tore his knee to shreds the season before he rushed for over 2000 yards.

Brockington had 1347 carries for his entire career. Peterson had Brockington's career total and 59 more carries BEFORE he fell a few yards short of the NFL single season rushing record.

If Brockington was "toast" it was because he didn't properly take care of his body. John Riggins had nearly 3000 carries in his NFL career.
Zero2Cool  
#46 Posted : Friday, July 18, 2014 2:33:03 PM(UTC)
yooperfan said: Go to Quoted Post
Brockington averaged 5.1 in his 1st year in 1971 and 3.3 in his last year in 74.
He was toast after 3 years.


And that makes me lean more towards it was due to John Brockington, not being "run into the ground". And during those four years I mentioned, it was only a 14 game season so even less wear and tear.
yooperfan  
#47 Posted : Saturday, July 19, 2014 4:44:43 AM(UTC)
uffda udfa said: Go to Quoted Post
Adrian Peterson had 1406 NFL carries and tore his knee to shreds the season before he rushed for over 2000 yards.

Brockington had 1347 carries for his entire career. Peterson had Brockington's career total and 59 more carries BEFORE he fell a few yards short of the NFL single season rushing record.

If Brockington was "toast" it was because he didn't properly take care of his body. John Riggins had nearly 3000 carries in his NFL career.


Perhaps he didn't take care of his body (although he looked like he was chiseled from stone) or perhaps he just lost his passion for the game (he had a lot of miles on him coming out of Ohio State).

At any rate my feeling is Lacy's career is likely to mirror Brockingtons where he wears out physically or loses his passion to play.

nerdmann  
#48 Posted : Saturday, July 19, 2014 6:02:51 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
And that makes me lean more towards it was due to John Brockington, not being "run into the ground". And during those four years I mentioned, it was only a 14 game season so even less wear and tear.


Yes but more "carries per game."
Zero2Cool  
#49 Posted : Saturday, July 19, 2014 6:08:14 AM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Yes but more "carries per game."


How do you figure?
uffda udfa  
#50 Posted : Saturday, July 19, 2014 11:10:09 AM(UTC)
yooperfan said: Go to Quoted Post
Perhaps he didn't take care of his body (although he looked like he was chiseled from stone) or perhaps he just lost his passion for the game (he had a lot of miles on him coming out of Ohio State).

At any rate my feeling is Lacy's career is likely to mirror Brockingtons where he wears out physically or loses his passion to play.



As to Brockington... AD had a ton of wear coming out of Oklahoma. AD has incredible passion...I don't know enough about Brockington to know if he had the same.

As to Lacy, the closest current comparison back would be Marshawn Lynch...that dude has back problems. He's carried it 1753 times and still is extremely effective. I don't know that Marshawn is a guy who loves football, either.

To me, Lacy seems to enjoy the NFL some. If his attitude stays good there's no reason he can't carry as much and for as long as Marshawn Lynch. I would say 4-5 more good seasons out of Eddie would be a reasonable expectation. It'll be interesting to see what kind of deal we offer him if he's still playing at a high level when his contract is up in a few seasons.
Mucky Tundra  
#51 Posted : Saturday, July 19, 2014 11:15:21 AM(UTC)
Whenever I hear about Lacy being disinterested in play pro football, I can't help but think of former NFL players who, after 6-8 years in the league, their bodies burned out and unemployed struggled to find something in life post-football. As far as I'm concerned, the guy as a far broader view on life than most football players. He realizes that football isn't the end and be all to life and wants something a little bit more. Good for him but potentially bad for the Packers.
DoddPower  
#52 Posted : Saturday, July 19, 2014 3:22:33 PM(UTC)
Mucky Tundra said: Go to Quoted Post
Whenever I hear about Lacy being disinterested in play pro football, I can't help but think of former NFL players who, after 6-8 years in the league, their bodies burned out and unemployed struggled to find something in life post-football. As far as I'm concerned, the guy as a far broader view on life than most football players. He realizes that football isn't the end and be all to life and wants something a little bit more. Good for him but potentially bad for the Packers.


Getting a handful of good seasons from a bruising running back is about all I would really be hoping for as a general manager. I would always be on the look out for good running backs that fell in the draft, kind of like Carlos Hyde did for the 49'ers or Lacy last year for the Packers. Take a good one when he is good value, because the ones you have probably won't last for too long. There are always exceptions, but they do not define the norm.

The running back position may be devalued in today's NFL, but a good one can completely change an offense. The Packers are a good example of that recently.
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