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Offline wpr  
#11 Posted : Monday, August 25, 2014 2:28:54 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
I've been on Matt Flynn's bandwagon for quite some time and been adamantly against Scott Tozien after watching him look like a deer caught in headlights. Both Flynn and Tolzien have shown something. Flynn has shown a little more zip, but poor decision making. Tolzien has always had some zip and has shown better decision making and better accuracy. One thing I like about Tolzien is I don't see the happy feet in the pocket nearly as much and he looks a heckuva lot more confident back there.

Tolzien
Att - 38
Comp - 26
Yds - 338
Comp% - 68.4
Yds/Att - 8.9
TD - 1
INT - 0
Rating - 104.9

Flynn
Att - 23
Comp - 11
Yds - 130
Comp% - 47.8
Yds/Att - 5.7
TD - 1
INT - 1
Rating - 61.9



If the Packers keep three QB's, then they hurt their depth else where. Keeping three QB's simply does not make sense. Packers cut Tolzien, someone will surely grab him whereas if Flynn is cut, there is a good chance if both Aaron Rodgers and Tolzien are hurt, Flynn will be available.


I do not dispute the numbers are giving Tolzien a clear edge int he backup QB battle. What concerns me is that preseason stats typically don't mean a whole heck of a lot. Not all starters play. Not all players go full tilt. Not all teams run their "real" plays. It is very hard to look at preseason numbers and get the true picture of what is happening. I would feel better if GB went with 3 QBs even if it means being short at another position. After all it is not as if they player they don't keep will be activated on gameday. Should GB have yet more injuries and be short at another position I will gladly reevaluate my position.
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#12 Posted : Monday, August 25, 2014 2:56:03 PM(UTC)
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sigh here we go again..... you can't really use numbers because almost all these snaps in pre season were against 2nd and 3rd string D. I go back to last year it was Flynn who came in sparked the team and got it done.( If Tolzien could they would not have gone out and signed Matt )

I watched Tolzien last year and at UW enough to not want the risk. But let's really look at reality here. Regardless both these guys are a 1 to 2 year stop gap. TT/MM very soon will draft a QB to groom for the next starter. That QB will take over the #2 spot.

So Tolzien or Flynn it's not like their here long term regardless Two Cents
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#13 Posted : Monday, August 25, 2014 4:20:02 PM(UTC)
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Keep 3.
Rodgers has been hit too hard, too often over his career due to the Packers inability to build an adequate OL.
He is no spring chicken anymore and injury is bound to rear it's ugly head if he is not protected any better than he has been throughout his career.
Hopefully we won't lose him again this year, but having two reasonably decent backups at the position would help to alleviate a cluster fuck at the QB position that we had to endure last year.
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, August 26, 2014 12:11:10 PM(UTC)
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Coach's answer in his latest press conference is exactly how I feel on the matter:

On the potential number of quarterbacks kept on the roster:

Matt and Scott aren't just competing against each other. You have to keep your best players. They're really competing against the other positions, and that's what it comes down to.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, August 26, 2014 1:33:48 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: yooperfan Go to Quoted Post
Keep 3.
Rodgers has been hit too hard, too often over his career due to the Packers inability to build an adequate OL.
He is no spring chicken anymore and injury is bound to rear it's ugly head if he is not protected any better than he has been throughout his career.
Hopefully we won't lose him again this year, but having two reasonably decent backups at the position would help to alleviate a cluster f*ck at the QB position that we had to endure last year.


I agree. You have 2 decent backups now, the opposite of what we had when Aaron Rodgers went down last year.
So you don't keep a 3rd or 4th string guy in a different area.....are you really losing that much? Other positions are easier to fill in a emergency then a QB.
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, August 26, 2014 5:16:19 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Cheesey Go to Quoted Post
I agree. You have 2 decent backups now, the opposite of what we had when Aaron Rodgers went down last year.


One of those guys is the same guy.
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.

Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
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#17 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 7:31:40 AM(UTC)
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#18 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 9:12:07 AM(UTC)
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One of those guys is the same guy.


Flynn wasn't with GB when Rodgers went down.
So I guess you speak of Tolzien.
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#19 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 11:35:35 AM(UTC)
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CRAP!!!
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#20 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 11:39:24 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
CRAP!!!


Demovsky added "barring a last minute trade"

Don't "crap" just yet!!!!!

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