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Offline DarkaneRules  
#31 Posted : Sunday, August 24, 2014 1:35:35 PM(UTC)
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Bryan Bulaga is a starting tackle on this football team and playing well. Anything else is water under the bridge. Let's be happy he is playing well instead of lamenting where he was drafted. What do ya say?
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Offline steveishere  
#32 Posted : Sunday, August 24, 2014 1:39:29 PM(UTC)
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I don't get the RT/LT thing, pressure off the RT will screw up your play just as badly as pressure off the LT. People just significantly overrate the LT position because of the "blindside" stuff.
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#33 Posted : Sunday, August 24, 2014 1:48:33 PM(UTC)
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NFL teams routinely pay out HUGE contracts to ... LEFT tackles...not right ones.

With Bulaga it goes to the AJ Hawk argument which you're well aware of how I feel about that.

Dez Bryant vs. Bryan Bulaga... One is a top 3 WR in the NFL... the other is a middling RT. Yes, I'm partying like it's 1999, Darkane. :)
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Offline beast  
#34 Posted : Sunday, August 24, 2014 1:53:21 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: uffda udfa Go to Quoted Post
NFL teams routinely pay out HUGE contracts to ... LEFT tackles...not right ones.

With Bulaga it goes to the AJ Hawk argument which you're well aware of how I feel about that.

Dez Bryant vs. Bryan Bulaga... One is a top 3 WR in the NFL... the other is a middling RT. Yes, I'm partying like it's 1999, Darkane. :)


I think Bulaga was rated as a top 3 RT in the NFL one year and his numbers didn't look too bad against the LT either.

Hawk is average... Bulaga can be extremely good at times, just hasn't been healthy and has struggled with injuries.
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Offline evad04  
#35 Posted : Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:29:36 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: uffda udfa Go to Quoted Post


Bryan Bulaga was a waste of FIRST round selection. Tell me why he was drafted by us in the 1st round? ... To play...?????... Yup, LEFT tackle, which he was NOT...ever...no how no way. So, he turns into an adequate RT and you chalk that up as a win? Not me. A fail...major fail. I remember the clock ticking on our pick just feeling sick that Ted Thompson would draft "Bustaga" as I called him then. Dez is sitting there. All the talent in the world. Just a special player. Nope...we get the plodder who can't play LT at the NFL level. Yes, disappointed...still.



You're doing it wrong. You add milk, not piss, to your Cheerios. It tastes much better. Well, I can only imagine -- I haven't tried it your way.

Your freakish obsession with draft position continues on. Bryan Bulaga was drafted with the intention to play left tackle. True statement. As it turned out, he was a better fit on the right side. Never possessed the arm length that fits with prototype left tackle. But he's played well on the right side. He's a quality starter on the right side for an emerging offensive line.

That's not a first-round bust. A first-round bust is a guy who doesn't contribute -- a guy who doesn't start.

We did, however, draft a guy in the 4th round who appears to be a solid fit at left tackle: David Bakhtiari. He played well for a rookie and got stronger in the offseason. Sounds like great value to me. Another mid-round selection for the Pack on the offensive line who we fans can be excited about (Lang, a solid guard, and Sitton a All-Pro caliber guard).

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Offline StarrMax1  
#36 Posted : Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:33:15 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: musccy Go to Quoted Post
Uffda or others who criticize the team for missing in early rounds have a point. As I've stated in other threads, there are tangible consequences for missing early, especially for a team that doesn't utilize F.A. often.

With that said, it ultimately comes down to fielding the best team by whatever means necessary. The same scouts missing in the early rounds are the ones finding Shields, Elliot, Barclay, Pennel, etc. so you can't solely criticize them for the misses.



That is not what this thread is about, he is calling a 3rd and 4th rnd 2014 pick busts, which in turn makes the whole 2014 draft a bust.

Anybody with any sense knows you can't judge a player let alone a whole draft class in 1 training camp.

Anything that uffda thinks will make Ted Thompson look bad he will post and bend the truth as much as he wants just to move his one and only agenda forward.
Offline musccy  
#37 Posted : Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:14:25 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: uffda udfa Go to Quoted Post
NFL teams routinely pay out HUGE contracts to ... LEFT tackles...not right ones.

With Bulaga it goes to the AJ Hawk argument which you're well aware of how I feel about that.

Dez Bryant vs. Bryan Bulaga... One is a top 3 WR in the NFL... the other is a middling RT. Yes, I'm partying like it's 1999, Darkane. :)


As has been said, the Cowboys also had to hire personal babysitters for Dez to keep him from shooting himself in the foot (figuratively speaking). The Packers now have a solid starting RT that they're paying an avg of about 3 mil/year for. When in the last 5 years have the Packers not adequately addressed the WR position? I don't see your Dez v. Bulaga argument.


Offline musccy  
#38 Posted : Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:18:26 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: StarrMax1 Go to Quoted Post
That is not what this thread is about, he is calling a 3rd and 4th rnd 2014 pick busts, which in turn makes the whole 2014 draft a bust.

Anybody with any sense knows you can't judge a player let alone a whole draft class in 1 training camp.

Anything that uffda thinks will make Ted Thompson look bad he will post and bend the truth as much as he wants just to move his one and only agenda forward.


I understand, I was just stating that I agreed with a portion of what I believed Uffda was saying. Anyway, the thread has moved on, and yes, I certainly agree that it's hard to call a mid-round pick a bust 4 weeks into camp when they're still on the roster.

Offline uffda udfa  
#39 Posted : Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:49:25 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: musccy Go to Quoted Post
I understand, I was just stating that I agreed with a portion of what I believed Uffda was saying. Anyway, the thread has moved on, and yes, I certainly agree that it's hard to call a mid-round pick a bust 4 weeks into camp when they're still on the roster.



Originally Posted by: StarrMax1 Go to Quoted Post
That is not what this thread is about, he is calling a 3rd and 4th rnd 2014 pick busts, which in turn makes the whole 2014 draft a bust.

Anybody with any sense knows you can't judge a player let alone a whole draft class in 1 training camp.

Anything that uffda thinks will make Ted Thompson look bad he will post and bend the truth as much as he wants just to move his one and only agenda forward.


How many hundreds of guys will be judged and cut over the next few days off of one training camp?

You don't remember Ricky Elmore, do you? Guy had clips on YouTube of his uber athleticism. Some were thinking he was the next Clay Matthews. He was a 6th rounder if memory serves... CUT. Guy couldn't play a lick... much like Bradford and Thornton.

I thought this draft was horrific after it was completed. Does it mean the entire draft is a bust because Thornton and Bradford are likely to be busts? No. However, when you draft and claim it was about "winning now" and your guys don't look anywhere near ready to contribute, I'd say that's a big time bust.

Rich Rod will be starting along with Linsley so you can claim we got two starters from the draft. When Dix isn't good enough to beat out what we've had at safety that isn't very encouraging. Same for Davante Adams... Mr. Catch in college can't catch in the pros and will be lucky to find himself ahead of Jeff Janis. So, I would conclude that Dix and Adams are quite disappointing as our 1st and 2nd rounders. Goodson has been a JAG.

Right now... Rodgers and Linsley...starting due to injury to Bostick and Tretter. Two very weak positions on this team. Shame about Abby. Jeff Janis may be the best player from our draft this year. Remember, this draft was a "win now" draft. Let's see what we get from this class when all is said and done this year. It certainly doesn't look too promising as of today and the season is just around the corner.



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Offline evad04  
#40 Posted : Sunday, August 24, 2014 5:00:56 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: uffda udfa Go to Quoted Post


I thought this draft was horrific after it was completed. Does it mean the entire draft is a bust because Thornton and Bradford are likely to be busts? No. However, when you draft and claim it was about "winning now" and your guys don't look anywhere near ready to contribute, I'd say that's a big time bust.


Ted Thompson saying the draft is about winning now is a Ted Thompson type of thing to say. It's right up there with phrases like, "We think he can help our team" and "We think he can be a good player."

You are the only person that has taken it literally. I imagine your room looking like the dude from "A Beautiful Mind" where the are articles cut out everywhere and taped to the wall with red pen and strings criss-crossing and papers strewn about. And on big red letters scribbled over the mass of it all is "WINNING NOW"

Get a grip, dude. Take Thompson's comments with a heap of salt. Or, you could reference "winning now" in every other post. The latter would seem to be your strategy, and at least in its ability to make me want to jam a fork into my eye, its highly successful.
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