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MintBaconDrivel  
#1 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 3:43:17 PM(UTC)
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uffda udfa  
#2 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 3:54:02 PM(UTC)
Those who would say draft status doesn't matter should consider we kept Carl Bradford and Demetri Goodson. Are you kidding me?

Jumal Rolle got kicked in the nuts on this one.

Bradford is terrible but we're so bad at ILB I guess I can stomach him sticking.

We kept all 9 draftees.
steveishere  
#3 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:01:10 PM(UTC)
I thought they might keep Goodson over Rolle. Rolle is nothing special and probably maxed out on his potential, Goodson is a better prospect. At #6CB you keep the guy you think can be better.

I get keeping Bradford too, it's not his fault they made him play out of position for 3 weeks. We've got enough depth at ILB that he probably won't have to play this year.

I don't feel like we'll really miss anyone we let go besides Rolle and Banjo and even both of those guys are just... meh
DarkaneRules  
#4 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:13:18 PM(UTC)
steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
I thought they might keep Goodson over Rolle. Rolle is nothing special and probably maxed out on his potential, Goodson is a better prospect. At #6CB you keep the guy you think can be better.

I get keeping Bradford too, it's not his fault they made him play out of position for 3 weeks. We've got enough depth at ILB that he probably won't have to play this year.

I don't feel like we'll really miss anyone we let go besides Rolle and Banjo and even both of those guys are just... meh


I guess your right. I just saw Rolle make more plays. Maybe in between those plays he was having more breakdowns than I thought he was because I was tending to watching the line play more.
steveishere  
#5 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:36:33 PM(UTC)
DarkaneRules said: Go to Quoted Post
I guess your right. I just saw Rolle make more plays. Maybe in between those plays he was having more breakdowns than I thought he was because I was tending to watching the line play more.


He did make more plays but Rolle actually allowed 9 catches in preseason and Goodson 5 (1 less game). I liked Rolle and he looked solid all around and a good tackler but I just think Goodson is more athletic and probably has better potential in coverage.

When it comes down to it though unless some catastrophe happens neither of these guys will probably see any meaningful snap in coverage and would be a gameday inactive so you have to take the guy you think has the higher potential unless one just completely shits the bed and Goodson had some breakdowns but he also showed some solid skills.
nerdmann  
#6 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:53:50 PM(UTC)
steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
I thought they might keep Goodson over Rolle. Rolle is nothing special and probably maxed out on his potential, Goodson is a better prospect. At #6CB you keep the guy you think can be better.

I get keeping Bradford too, it's not his fault they made him play out of position for 3 weeks. We've got enough depth at ILB that he probably won't have to play this year.

I don't feel like we'll really miss anyone we let go besides Rolle and Banjo and even both of those guys are just... meh


Bulk Rolle up and move him to S.

Bradford is one of those guys at ILB who can cover. If Palmer wasn't injured they'd probly have kept him over Bradford.
greengold  
#7 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 5:02:03 PM(UTC)
uffda udfa said: Go to Quoted Post
Those who would say draft status doesn't matter should consider we kept Carl Bradford and Demetri Goodson. Are you kidding me?

Jumal Rolle got kicked in the nuts on this one.

Bradford is terrible but we're so bad at ILB I guess I can stomach him sticking.

We kept all 9 draftees.


7 draft picks made the 53 but who's counting?

By your accounting we kept 4 UDFA from this year as well. (Joe Thomas, Raijon Neal, Elliot, Pennel)

Neither Goodson or Rolle has ever played in a real NFL game. Rolle has been cut by three teams and cleared waivers twice I believe.

beast  
#8 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 5:20:14 PM(UTC)
uffda udfa said: Go to Quoted Post
Those who would say draft status doesn't matter should consider we kept Carl Bradford and Demetri Goodson. Are you kidding me?

Jumal Rolle got kicked in the nuts on this one.


I'm with you with Bradford (though he looked surprisingly good at ILB after being MIA at OLB)...

But disagree with the Goodson / Rolle...

If Rolle got hit in the nuts it's own fault... yes he made plays but he also gave them up... Rolle was like former Packers Safety Aaron Rouse.... Rouse made a lot of big plays (which excited fans) but he also gave a lot of them up to the offenses (which ticked off the coaches). Same with Rolle...

In the last preseason game Rolle had what should of been an INT (if it didn't get called back), but he also gave up what could of been a TD if not for an error by the WRs (which he didn't see as his back was towards him) and on a short catch and run he COMPLETELY whiffed on a tackle... Rolle played the second half of that game like he had a spot wrapped up...which he didn't.

Compare that to Goodson coverage on James Jones where Jones (a good route running vet beats him) but he didn't quit... he tried to knock the ball out and take Jones to the ground... and in the end no touch down because he knocked the ball out for a second and knocked Jones out of bounds in that second.


Is Goodson better than Rolle RIGHT NOW... no he's not... but it's not all about right now... Goodson also showed potential and his potential (if he grows) ceiling is higher than Rolle's potential...


uffda udfa  
#9 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 5:22:24 PM(UTC)
greengold said: Go to Quoted Post
7 draft picks made the 53 but who's counting?

By your accounting we kept 4 UDFA from this year as well. (Joe Thomas, Raijon Neal, Elliot, Pennel)

Neither Goodson or Rolle has ever played in a real NFL game. Rolle has been cut by three teams and cleared waivers twice I believe.



Who's counting? Me. We kept all 9 draftees... Thornton and Abbrederis are still with us...they were not waived/injured. They were IR'ed.

Yes, we kept 4 UDFA's by my accounting which is the correct type of accounting... none of those 4 on your list were waived/injured.

Jarrett Boykin was cut by the Jaguars and he's the greatest thing since sliced bread here. So, what is the point of pointing out Rolle has been cut? Go look at Cullen Jenkins road to the NFL. I'd say without that guy we don't win it in 2010. We haven't been close to getting back after he left.

I like all the UDFA's that we kept IR or not. Lots of promise in that group. I'd argue there is almost as much promise in the UDFA group than the draftee group. That is good and bad.



nerdmann  
#10 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 5:23:45 PM(UTC)
We need a NT. We don't have a starter there.

We also need a T. We're set with starters, but we don't have depth.

This is the 53 for now, but there could still be some turnover on the bottom of the roster.
User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#11 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 5:26:19 PM(UTC)
I guess I'll give it my stamp of approval. I woulda kept Stoneburner, but it's hard to say in place of who. Rolle was not overly impressive in the two games I saw. I agree, Goodson undoubtedly has more upside. I exactly agree with the numbers in each position group, which is actually as important or more than the players named.
beast  
#12 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 5:30:25 PM(UTC)
texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
I woulda kept Stoneburner


Well he's on the IR... so I assume he's injured? and the Packers did keep him (at least so far) because he's still with the team.
greengold  
#13 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 6:57:32 PM(UTC)
uffda udfa said: Go to Quoted Post
So, what is the point of pointing out Rolle has been cut?

I was responding to:
uffda udfa said: Go to Quoted Post
Those who would say draft status doesn't matter should consider we kept Carl Bradford and Demetri Goodson. Are you kidding me? ... We kept all 9 draftees.

As if the draft class got a free ride over the undrafted guys. But 4 undrafted guys from this class is a sizable number.

I also got the distinct impression you wanted Rolle over Goodson. Maybe there is a reason Rolle went undrafted and now has been cut by 3 teams, maybe not. If not, and they like both players, then maybe the fact he has cleared waivers twice already makes it more likely the Packers can stash him on the practice squad than Goodson? I dunno. I don't think you do either.

They are also running a business, and all else being equal, it is cheaper against the cap to cut an undrafted guy than a draft pick. I know that should not be the only factor, but remember neither Goodson or Rolle has ever played in a real NFL game, and we don't know everything the coaches have seen regarding upside potential.

Dexter_Sinister  
#14 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 7:20:06 PM(UTC)
greengold said: Go to Quoted Post
I was responding to:

As if the draft class got a free ride over the undrafted guys. But 4 undrafted guys from this class is a sizable number.

I also got the distinct impression you wanted Rolle over Goodson. Maybe there is a reason Rolle went undrafted and now has been cut by 3 teams, maybe not. If not, and they like both players, then maybe the fact he has cleared waivers twice already makes it more likely the Packers can stash him on the practice squad than Goodson? I dunno. I don't think you do either.

They are also running a business, and all else being equal, it is cheaper against the cap to cut an undrafted guy than a draft pick. I know that should not be the only factor, but remember neither Goodson or Rolle has ever played in a real NFL game, and we don't know everything the coaches have seen regarding upside potential.



Goodson is also still here because of his physical abilities. He is pretty raw, but he is very athletic.

They have to worry about the future of the team as well as the present.

That is the develop part of the draft and develop.
buckeyepackfan  
#15 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 7:31:37 PM(UTC)
beast said: Go to Quoted Post
Well he's on the IR... so I assume he's injured? and the Packers did keep him (at least so far) because he's still with the team.


The way Stoneburner was tweeting this afternoon, it sounded like The Packers had released him.

I got tired of waiting for the final cuts, just came back only to find out Stoneburner was put on IR???????

Not complaining, UDFA last year who was pushed onto the 53 man roster due to other injuries, he probably needed another year.

I guess Ted and Mike figured he was worth keeping around and Jake must have "pulled a muscle" while he was tweeting today.

That's the only real surprise, other than Goodson making the final 53 I see.

Awful young on the D-line, let's hope Mike Daniels keeps these guys fired up.
nerdmann  
#16 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 7:40:11 PM(UTC)
Dexter_Sinister said: Go to Quoted Post
Goodson is also still here because of his physical abilities. He is pretty raw, but he is very athletic.

They have to worry about the future of the team as well as the present.

That is the develop part of the draft and develop.


Can he field punts?
Gaycandybacon  
#17 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 7:42:29 PM(UTC)
buckeyepackfan said: Go to Quoted Post
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Awful young on the D-line, let's hope Mike Daniels keeps these guys fired up.


Mike and Peppers will.Lets Box!
DakotaT  
#18 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 8:00:52 PM(UTC)
This defense is weak up the middle with or without Raji, and has been since Bishop got hurt. I really hope this Barrington kid can get on the field. Power running teams will eat them up, so when we play teams like that; it is very important to play with a lead.
uffda udfa  
#19 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 8:08:18 PM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
This defense is weak up the middle with or without Raji, and has been since Bishop got hurt. I really hope this Barrington kid can get on the field. Power running teams will eat them up, so when we play teams like that; it is very important to play with a lead.


This post could've been made for the last 3 seasons minus the Barrington part as he hasn't been here that long.

When your D is weak up the middle for 3 straight seasons and isn't fixed, even a little, that is very poor leadership from the top.
Mike McCarthy said we're about winning championships and that is always the goal... How can we believe that when our same glaring weakness is present again? My goodness how many more years is it going to be like this?
beast  
#20 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 8:09:39 PM(UTC)
buckeyepackfan said: Go to Quoted Post
The way Stoneburner was tweeting this afternoon, it sounded like The Packers had released him.

I got tired of waiting for the final cuts, just came back only to find out Stoneburner was put on IR???????


In some ways being on IR might be worse in players minds... means your season is done (if you stay on IR), means you're injured and means you might have to work towards an injury settlement if they don't want to keep you on IR for the whole season.


Like I noticed today the RB Neal, ILB Thomas and OL Tiller were sent to IR during the 75 man cut downs... but on Packers.com I don't see them listed on the IR on the updated roster...

Maybe a mistake on Packers.com's part? Or maybe they got injury settlements and released like TE Lyerla?
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