StarrMax1
9 years ago

Clay Matthews was put in a similar situation on the other side of the field a couple drives later only he had a blocker in front of him and Harvin had more time to react after he caught the ball. Did Clay run backwards... no Clay ran toward Harvin and made the tackle (with an added forced fumble) before he got the first down. That's the difference between what a good LB does and what a bad LB does. Make all of the excuses you want it's not hard to see.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



#1, he didn't "run backward" he adjusted his angle, cutting down a lane.

In the 3rd quarter, I believe it was just after the safety, Hawk took on either a rb or wr who caught a pass in the flat and he registered a solo open field tackle.

He lined the guy up, closed the gap, and wrapped him up for no gain or could have been a loss.
Why is that play not "Classic Hawk"?

Hawk once again lead the team in tackles while being on the field only 48 of 70 plays.

I guess unless it's an "impact play" those tackles don't count.

There were very few "Impact plays" last Thursday. From anyone.

I saw Clay whiff real bad on a rb in the backfield one play, yet you don't mention that.

I guess Clay was a "real Bad lb" on that play.

Just read where Lattimore will be starting for Jones, but when it comes to playing the "dime" lb it will probably be AJ Hawk, not Lattimore or Barrington, because Hawk has the experience of making the D calls and adjustments.

So Good news boys, you will probably have many more plays this week to bash on AJ Hawk.

Have fun with it.



9 years ago

#1, he didn't "run backward" he adjusted his angle, cutting down a lane.

In the 3rd quarter, I believe it was just after the safety, Hawk took on either a rb or wr who caught a pass in the flat and he registered a solo open field tackle.

He lined the guy up, closed the gap, and wrapped him up for no gain or could have been a loss.
Why is that play not "Classic Hawk"?

Hawk once again lead the team in tackles while being on the field only 48 of 70 plays.

I guess unless it's an "impact play" those tackles don't count.

There were very few "Impact plays" last Thursday. From anyone.

I saw Clay whiff real bad on a rb in the backfield one play, yet you don't mention that.

I guess Clay was a "real Bad lb" on that play.

Just read where Lattimore will be starting for Jones, but when it comes to playing the "dime" lb it will probably be AJ Hawk, not Lattimore or Barrington, because Hawk has the experience of making the D calls and adjustments.

So Good news boys, you will probably have many more plays this week to bash on AJ Hawk.

Have fun with it.



Originally Posted by: StarrMax1 


We don't mention that because Clay put himself in the position to make a play. I'd rather the player get embarrassed by the rb or wr in the backfield. At least he put himself in the position to make a play.

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StarrMax1
9 years ago

We don't mention that because Clay put himself in the position to make a play. I'd rather the player get embarrassed by the rb or wr in the backfield. At least he put himself in the position to make a play.

Originally Posted by: cheeseheads123 



And Hawk didn't put himself in position?

He did exactly what he should have done.

The play was a 4 yd gain, better that then Hawk whiffing and Harvin somehow gets through Hyde for a big gain.

1st drive of the game for Seattle, Packers stopped them next series, but then there was the roughing penalty on the punt.

Try taking a look at the big picture, not isolating this play and that play.
DoddPower
9 years ago

We don't mention that because Clay put himself in the position to make a play. I'd rather the player get embarrassed by the rb or wr in the backfield. At least he put himself in the position to make a play.

Originally Posted by: cheeseheads123 



Clay also continually makes impact plays and is the most passionate player on the defense. But even he needs to play better more consistently, admittedly.
steveishere
9 years ago

And Hawk didn't put himself in position?

He did exactly what he should have done.

The play was a 4 yd gain, better that then Hawk whiffing and Harvin somehow gets through Hyde for a big gain.

1st drive of the game for Seattle, Packers stopped them next series, but then there was the roughing penalty on the punt.

Try taking a look at the big picture, not isolating this play and that play.

Originally Posted by: StarrMax1 



Why on earth would Hawk whiff on him? He was a few yards away with a free run at him with nobody standing in his way. Harvin wasn't up to speed and he was just completing catching the pass. Hawk started backing up before Harvin could even get his head around. All Hawk did was give Harvin more time to react and more space to work with. Instead of closing the distance and making the play he had to rely on Micah Hyde to defeat a block and get in Harvins way. If Hawk cannot make the play then he's simply not good.
StarrMax1
9 years ago

Why on earth would Hawk whiff on him? He was a few yards away with a free run at him with nobody standing in his way. Harvin wasn't up to speed and he was just completing catching the pass. Hawk started backing up before Harvin could even get his head around. All Hawk did was give Harvin more time to react and more space to work with. Instead of closing the distance and making the play he had to rely on Micah Hyde to defeat a block and get in Harvins way. If Hawk cannot make the play then he's simply not good.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Harvin had the ball, he wasn't going to be stopped behind the line of scrimmage, Hawk made the adjustment so there wouldn't be a huge gain.

Go back and read Capers comment that was posted earlier about gang tackling.

Again
Hawk did exactly what he was suppose to do.
yooperfan
9 years ago

Why on earth would Hawk whiff on him? He was a few yards away with a free run at him with nobody standing in his way. Harvin wasn't up to speed and he was just completing catching the pass. Hawk started backing up before Harvin could even get his head around. All Hawk did was give Harvin more time to react and more space to work with. Instead of closing the distance and making the play he had to rely on Micah Hyde to defeat a block and get in Harvins way. If Hawk cannot make the play then he's simply not good.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Easy to be a critic when you are sitting at home in your lazy boy.
Much more difficult on the field going full speed.

steveishere
9 years ago

Harvin had the ball, he wasn't going to be stopped behind the line of scrimmage, Hawk made the adjustment so there wouldn't be a huge gain.

Go back and read Capers comment that was posted earlier about gang tackling.

Again
Hawk did exactly what he was suppose to do.

Originally Posted by: StarrMax1 



The part about converging on the ball and decreasing the amount of space a runner has to work with? Yeah that's how it works, Hawk closes on the ball so even if he misses other guys have more time to get there. Hawk was at the line of scrimmage before Harvin even caught the ball. "he wasn't going to be stopped" is bullshit. If Hawk kept moving he would have easily met Harvin before the Line of scimmage. I see no way at all that Hawks "adjustment" prevented a huge gain.
steveishere
9 years ago

Easy to be a critic when you are sitting at home in your lazy boy.
Much more difficult on the field going full speed.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



Not as difficult on the field for some as it is for others. Hawk is one of those that it's more difficult for I agree.
StarrMax1
9 years ago

The part about converging on the ball and decreasing the amount of space a runner has to work with? Yeah that's how it works, Hawk closes on the ball so even if he misses other guys have more time to get there. Hawk was at the line of scrimmage before Harvin even caught the ball. "he wasn't going to be stopped" is bullshit. If Hawk kept moving he would have easily met Harvin before the Line of scimmage. I see no way at all that Hawks "adjustment" prevented a huge gain.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 




You are seeing what you want to see, not what actually happened.

No sense arguing about it.

You keep hammering Hawk, it's your right.





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