yooperfan
8 years ago

The great coaches would have been great coaches in any era. They were great because they understood people psychologically. They would adapt to succeed. I wish I could explain myself better, but if one reads any book about Lombardi it would explain.

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 



This could very well be true in Lombardi's case.
I've read a number of books about Lombardi and he was a master psychologist.
Like many psychologists and psychiatrists he was pretty screwed up himself, but he was one hell of a football coach.

gbguy20
8 years ago

Let's just hope Mike has learned his lesson.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



agreed. But I can't even count the number of times I have said that.
uffda udfa
8 years ago
Barry Switzer won a SB in Dallas because he had the horses.

The worst coach in the NFL could do well with the Packers because he'd have the QB.

We definitely fall short in the coaching category, although, I think the SB winning season under Mike McCarthy was among the best, if not the best, coaching job ever.




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Barfarn
8 years ago

The coaches really determine the teams mentality. For example, compare Belicheck and McCarthy. One coach has a team with no mercy, who you never see anyone come back from behind against. The other takes his foot off the gas every time, and pays for it. I'd rather have the coach who keeps his foot on the throttle no matter what the score.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



LOL, I'll take Mike McCarthy over BB every time in POs: here's the facts:
In 2014 in SB up 14-7 w/ :30 left in second half; let Seattle go 80 yards in :25 seconds, to tie game at half; the then got blown out in 3rd Q ended up needing 2 TDs late in game to be in position to win; but the D blew it and only Seattle’s incompetence allowed NE to hold on.

2013, ill-prepared blown out by Denver

In 2012, up 13-7 at half against a WC Balt. and folded like a cheap suit ended up losing in a blowout.

In 2011 up 17-9 in middle of 3rd and lose to Giants; Belicheck mismanaged TOs on Giants go ahead drive and the clock on final drive.

In 2010, got hammered by WC Jets and Sanchez; Jets in control the whole way

In 2009 got blown out by WC Baltimore 24-0 in 1st Q

In 2007, 18-0 for season and choked in 4th Q against Giants

In 2006, up 21-3 and choked big time against Indy

In 2005, blown out by Jake Plumber and Broncos
gbguy20
8 years ago

LOL, I'll take Mike McCarthy over BB every time in POs: here's the facts:
In 2014 in SB up 14-7 w/ :30 left in second half; let Seattle go 80 yards in :25 seconds, to tie game at half; the then got blown out in 3rd Q ended up needing 2 TDs late in game to be in position to win; but the D blew it and only Seattle’s incompetence allowed NE to hold on.

2013, ill-prepared blown out by Denver

In 2012, up 13-7 at half against a WC Balt. and folded like a cheap suit ended up losing in a blowout.

In 2011 up 17-9 in middle of 3rd and lose to Giants; Belicheck mismanaged TOs on Giants go ahead drive and the clock on final drive.

In 2010, got hammered by WC Jets and Sanchez; Jets in control the whole way

In 2009 got blown out by WC Baltimore 24-0 in 1st Q

In 2007, 18-0 for season and choked in 4th Q against Giants

In 2006, up 21-3 and choked big time against Indy

In 2005, blown out by Jake Plumber and Broncos

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



now do the same for us
texaspackerbacker
8 years ago

Barry Switzer won a SB in Dallas because he had the horses.

The worst coach in the NFL could do well with the Packers because he'd have the QB.

We definitely fall short in the coaching category, although, I think the SB winning season under Mike McCarthy was among the best, if not the best, coaching job ever.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Exactly what I've been saying, although I wouldn't go quite so far in praise about the SB winning season.


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Zero2Cool
8 years ago
Because you can find an exception to the rule, does not devalue the rule. It just means you're narrow minded. Nothing short of the score is an absolute telling factor in the NFL that is never disputable.

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texaspackerbacker
8 years ago

Because you can find an exception to the rule, does not devalue the rule. It just means you're narrow minded. Nothing short of the score is an absolute telling factor in the NFL that is never disputable.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yeah But ....... what IS the rule? That coaching matters most? Or what uffda udfa and I said - coaching means a lot less than what players you have?

I'm pretty sure a LOT more cases exist of the latter than the former.
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PackerTraxx
8 years ago

Barry Switzer won a SB in Dallas because he had the horses.

The worst coach in the NFL could do well with the Packers because he'd have the QB.

We definitely fall short in the coaching category, although, I think the SB winning season under Mike McCarthy was among the best, if not the best, coaching job ever.



Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



True. There are only 32 coaches in the NFL. So among all the coaches at all levels, the worst coach in the NFL is still a pretty good coach. That's one thing that always amazes me. Even the worst pro player is really an elite athlete compared to general populace. Yet there are still distinct levels of talent between the pros.
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