nerdmann
8 years ago

The only person I put less stock in than Packers talk is Jersey Al. Well,if I remember correctly, there was another site but I think it was taken off the link list because of its complete idiocy.

Besides, shouldn't it be last five in last five out. I mean the first five out should be the easiest ones to cut right. You start out thinking who are we going to keep and who are we going to cut. Aaron Rodgers, keep (1st one in) Jermauria Rasco, cut (first one out)

Originally Posted by: sschind 



Not everyone knows all the players and their agents personally like Uffda.
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sschind
8 years ago

Not everyone knows all the players and their agents personally like Uffda.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



For someone who has another person on ignore you sure like to bring that person up and egg him on a lot. If you aren't going to be able to read how he responds to your silly little jabs why even make them? Of course you know someone will reply to his comments and you will get to read them anyway so you can play all superior and indignant and claim "I have him on ignore"

I thought the purpose of ignoring someone was NOT to think about them.


sschind
8 years ago

Other than twitter, I never see Jersey Al...I remember sparring with him on something last offseason. Forget what it was but came away puzzled like I do here sometimes.

Those fan sites are fan sites for a reason...that is NOT where you go to get reliable info... I trust myself and Barfarn, steve, you, Z, etc. much more than these fan sites. There are some sharp people out there but sadly they don't run sites like Packerstalk.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I don't know if Al is posting less, I don't follow twitter, or if I am just getting better at spotting his stuff before I read it but I don't read much from him any more. The biggest problem I have when reading stuff on line is that I usually don't look at the author before I read the article so unless its a pretty clear statement (like the links on this site that say "Packerstalk says" etc.) I just jump right in reading.

I'd like to be able to say its because I want to keep an open mind and I don't want my opinion of the author to influence my opinion of the content but the truth is I'm usually just to lazy to seek it out so if it is not right there in front of me, more often than not, I miss it.

The same is true for forums such as this. Its easier to tell here because the avatars are hard to miss even if you are not looking for them but sometimes I'll get through post and if there are not certain obvious words used repeatedly or themes used repeatedly I have to go back and look at who wrote it. Sometimes, if I notice it's from a certain person on a certain topic I'll skip it because I figure its just a bunch of rehashed stuff (I'm sure many other feel the same way about some of my stuff) but usually, if its a topic that I have replied to or am interested in I'll eventually read it no matter who wrote it.
beast
8 years ago

I want to keep an open mind and I don't want my opinion of the author to influence my opinion of the content

Originally Posted by: sschind 



I usually see what company or site it's from and then read it... but seeing what site tells me if this is a beat reporter or just some fan writing... and I normally start reading with an open mind and don't really look at the author unless it's something extremely disagreeable to me, so I know to try to avoid that author in the future...
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nerdmann
8 years ago

I usually see what company or site it's from and then read it... but seeing what site tells me if this is a beat reporter or just some fan writing... and I normally start reading with an open mind and don't really look at the author unless it's something extremely disagreeable to me, so I know to try to avoid that author in the future...

Originally Posted by: beast 



On the other hand, fans are less likely to lie or tow the company line than someone who has to kowtow or maintain a professional relationship with the team.

If I only wanted to know what beat reporters think, I wouldn't read forums such as this.
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beast
8 years ago

On the other hand, fans are less likely to lie or tow the company line than someone who has to kowtow or maintain a professional relationship with the team.

If I only wanted to know what beat reporters think, I wouldn't read forums such as this.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



True but how often do Packers reporter "tow the company line"? They normally give what they see or what the coaches said and give their own opinion of it.

As for fans, it really depends on the person as some fans seem to know a ton and other fans it like, 'have you watched any games lately' or as that article the other day, just buying into the hype without confirming that the player should have the hype around them.

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uffda udfa
8 years ago

True but how often do Packers reporter "tow the company line"? They normally give what they see or what the coaches said and give their own opinion of it.

As for fans, it really depends on the person as some fans seem to know a ton and other fans it like, 'have you watched any games lately' or as that article the other day, just buying into the hype without confirming that the player should have the hype around them.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I can say without a doubt that teams can and do heavily influence what gets written or more aptly stated...what isn't. There are a lot of things these reporters have heard that they'll never report due to concern with how it will affect the team. Same goes for what players say. Ever notice JSO and Packersnews.com have very similar stories all the time?

There are some fans I really trust more than I do a beat guy. Michael Rodney is one guy I like...don't always agree with him, but I think he's sound. Bob McGinn is probably the single best Packer read for me of the media guys because he doesn't do the beat. He's not worried about having to get in a locker room and interview anyone. He gets his yearly sitdown with TT. He rips this team at times where you'll find nobody else in the mainstream Packers media who will.

Some guys here are worthy reads...I noted some of them earlier. There are some forums out there who have some bright guys. I don't visit other forums much anymore but I did the other day and found a poster I think a lot of is still active. If he did a blog, I would read it. There are some guys who I can't stand like some of you can't stand me...I enjoy reading those guys, too, because they are smart but they are counter to my thinking. Always interesting seeing how another bright mind looking through another lens sees the same thing I do.

With all the sincerity I can muster, I think it's wrong to post links from Packerstalk to this forum. Wrong in the sense it's embarrassing. That site is a joke. I've read some of the stuff linked here and I almost always ask myself WHY when I'm done reading. There hasn't been a single piece I've ever read from that site where I thought I learned something other than they don't know what they're talking about. I'm not even sure who that site would be catering to. Maybe, a new fan, or a young kid. If I was in 7th grade, I might think those guys were something.

We should start a thread to see who people here admire and the places they go for NFL news. I'd be curious to see who everyone is valuing. I have a feeling on some here already who they're reading.

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nerdmann
8 years ago

True but how often do Packers reporter "tow the company line"? They normally give what they see or what the coaches said and give their own opinion of it.

As for fans, it really depends on the person as some fans seem to know a ton and other fans it like, 'have you watched any games lately' or as that article the other day, just buying into the hype without confirming that the player should have the hype around them.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Also, no one is forcing anyone to agree with anyone else, be it beat reporter or blog person.
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