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Offline flep  
#1 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 7:32:30 AM(UTC)
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After the success of this years game at Wembley (and what a game it was)

What is the feeling among Packer fans here to whether you would like to see the Packers play In London either next season or the one after?

Roger Goodell stated last week during the game that the NFL is looking into playing possibly 2 games at Wembley for at least the next 2 seasons.

As a UK Packer Fan I would love to see the Packers play here. And would kill for tickets. The cost of me watching a game at Wembley is cosiderably cheaper than flying out to the States.

Before you go mad at me I understand totally that the Pack would never ever give up a home game but surely they would not be bothered about playing an away game at Wembley? It was good enough for San Diego and just think of the time it took them to get to London.

Nest season we play Pittsburgh away. Now that would be some game.

The season after we play the Jets and the Patriots and I am sure they are both slated as away games. Imagine if Favre was still playing and the Packers got the Jets to play a home game 3,000 miles away. You have to believe me when I say that the Pack is one of the most supported teams in the UK. We have an absolutely massive following and the Jets fans wuld be out numbered 2 - 1 easily.

What say you Packer backers?
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#2 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 8:25:00 AM(UTC)
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Your thread title, "Packers to play at Wembley," made me think that the Packers were actually going to play at Wembley. But they're not.

As to your question, I wouldn't mind if they played an away game at Wembley, but I would be irritated if it was a home game. Just like any other NFL fan.

It would be weird for the Packers to play in England, but I'd be happy for you. I appreciate Packer fans who live far away. And I appreciate that fans from other continents will post in this forum at odd hours, when I can't sleep and nobody else is posting.
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#3 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 8:26:45 AM(UTC)
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Sorry Greg

Have altered the thread title.
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#4 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 8:38:12 AM(UTC)
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Sorry Greg

Have altered the thread title.


Hey, thanks! I appreciate that. And I think it's a great subject for a thread.
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#5 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 11:23:18 AM(UTC)
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I wouldn't mind it, being European myself. I'd like to them to give it a shot in other country's aswell though. Germany had 4 of the 5 last NFL Europe teams, I can imagine they would want an NFL game there.

As for my own country, the Netherlands. I think they could sell-out a game easily here aswell. We had the other NFL Europe team, and the Amsterdam ArenA is a stadium suited for an NFL match.

But to get back to the topic. It would be great if the Packers played at england as long as they would put it out in time. I don't know how expensive tickets are, but being 17 and working part-time in the supermarket, I asume I have to work at least 3 month's to get them :p
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#6 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 11:29:15 AM(UTC)
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Greg you hit it right on the head. It would be neat to see them play over there but it would suck to take away a home game. Packer tickets are the hardest ticket in the nfl to get and to take a game away would be terrible. I live in PA and alot of steeler fans say they would love to get to green bay just to see a game. I heard a rumor about going to 17 games and then one of the extra games will be used for other countries.
BTW i'll be in heinz field next year for the packers steelers game, teacher from school has season tickets and said he would love to take me seeing i wear all my packer stuff to school.
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#7 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 11:40:02 AM(UTC)
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No, thank you.

But I love the idea of adding a week to the season and playing one game each week in a city that doesn't have an NFL team (you know, like Detroit...).
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#8 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 12:32:17 PM(UTC)
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i wouldn't mind think it is great that the pack has so many fan abroad :icon_smile: plus i think it kind of an honor that england would like the u.s.football team any team
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#9 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 2:27:54 PM(UTC)
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I think it would be cool as long as it's a road game. Give it to the Lions and save their fans some pain. LOL
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#10 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 2:57:22 PM(UTC)
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I understand the desire for English and European Packer fans want to see them play 1st hand but I personally would not like to see them play a regular season game over there. Preseason (week 1-2) would be fine.
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#11 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 5:40:39 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
I understand the desire for English and European Packer fans want to see them play 1st hand but I personally would not like to see them play a regular season game over there. Preseason (week 1-2) would be fine.


The problem with that would most likely be the same as with the NFL Europe. We have the best soccer players, Hockey players etc. in Europe. No one wants to earn their hard-earned money on meaningless games and third string players, apart from some die-hard fans. Because, although it might be getting slightly more popular here, there still are alot of people that think it's Rugby with helmets or 11 fat men running and hitting eachother.

Now I won't say this won't draw any attention, but I don't see people coming from all across the country to see a pre-season games. Also, alot of these people coming to this current Wembley games seem to be American. I don't see them travelling half the world for a pre-season match.

What would be handy is to put the game in front of a bye week, so the players could get some rest after the game. In soccer, although less physical, they have 2 games a week from time to time, because of the Champions League that's running at the same time as the national competitions. Soccer is 2 x 45 minutes of running and, as a soccer player myself for 6 years, that can make you quite sore. Yet, they're ready again.

Maybe it's not totally comparable, since you have the yet-lag, and the one day less of practice, but having an extra game in the middle of a season....
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#12 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 6:26:00 PM(UTC)
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Nearly every person I've ever chatted with across the pond says or has something negative to say about the NFL or the game of "American" football.

Its unfair to season ticket holders/die hard fans to have to miss a game because they want to try to get people from another country to get into a game that they really don't have easy access to in the first place.

Shoot I only get 3-5 games on tv a weekend...give ME(and of course everyone else lol) more free games before you give them anything.
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#13 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 6:34:32 PM(UTC)
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That sounds somewhat egoistic to me, but I see where you're coming from.

The NFL also sees though, that pretty much every american that likes sports, is already a football fan. The only reason why most people here don't like the game, is because they don't know it. They're just trying to get some fans here aswell, and make more money. After all, the NFL is just a business aswell.

Also, there are alot of fans here aswell. Why not give them some games. Just 1 or 2 games played in Europe from the 200-250 Regular Season games played in one season. Seems fair enough in my eyes...
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#14 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 6:35:59 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Nearly every person I've ever chatted with across the pond says or has something negative to say about the NFL or the game of "American" football.

Its unfair to season ticket holders/die hard fans to have to miss a game because they want to try to get people from another country to get into a game that they really don't have easy access to in the first place.

Shoot I only get 3-5 games on tv a weekend...give ME(and of course everyone else lol) more free games before you give them anything.


This pretty much sums up my feelings on the subject. I'm not a fan of the NFL reaching across the pond to reel in a new fan base. I understand their motivations behind it ($$$), but it bothers me on a personal level.

If European fans want to see a game, by all means c'mon over here. Euro and the Pound are kicking the dollar's ass anyways.
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#15 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 6:42:58 PM(UTC)
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Two words. HELL NO!!!! espicially if they take away a packer home game. Thats a bunch of crap IMO. No way. I hate the idea of the NFL going over there. For any game. Not just the Packers. well start throwing the harassment at me lol. i can take it. That is just my opinion though.
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#16 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 7:25:41 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for the replies so far.

I did state in my original post that there is no way the Packers would ever give up a home game and I would never ever, ever want them to.

There has been talk of a 17 or 18 game season by losing 2 preseason games.

With a 17 game season the 17th game would be an international game with no team being the designated home team, against an opposite conference team who finished in the same position in their repsective division the season prior.

The NFL had 6 preseason games in Wembley from 1986 onwards but fan attendence wained nearer the end when the UK fans realised that preseason games are not the real thing.

I went to the Giants - Dolphins game last year and over 80,000 attended. This year over 83,000 were there. 70,000 plus were from the UK not the US. Last year the first 40,000 tickets sold out in 90 minutes this year was even quicker.

We do understand the rules of the game (heck I even payed it for 6 years). It has been shown on TV in the UK for the past 26 years and has an ever growing fan base.

It cost for 3 tickets, travel to and from and a stay in a London hotel for 2 nights for myself, wife and son 350 approx $600. A lot cheaper than a flight for 1 to the states for a game. Just a chance to see a real meaningful NFL game meant everything to me.

So to see the Pack would be a defining moment in my life. And as I have said I would kill for tickets.

San Diego played an away game in Buffalo and instead of flying back to San Diego and then to New Orleans just flew on to London from Buffalo so their travelling was not too interupted.

It has not been noticed as well that last year and this, and also next year the 2 participating teams have their bye week the week after the game so jet lag is not an issue.

The game is becoming truly global and it would be wonderful to accept that.

I LOVE the Packers and to see a regular season game in my own country would enable me to die a happy man.
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#17 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 7:35:24 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
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I understand the desire for English and European Packer fans want to see them play 1st hand but I personally would not like to see them play a regular season game over there. Preseason (week 1-2) would be fine.


The problem with that would most likely be the same as with the NFL Europe. We have the best soccer players, Hockey players etc. in Europe. No one wants to earn their hard-earned money on meaningless games and third string players, apart from some die-hard fans. Because, although it might be getting slightly more popular here, there still are alot of people that think it's Rugby with helmets or 11 fat men running and hitting eachother.

Now I won't say this won't draw any attention, but I don't see people coming from all across the country to see a pre-season games. Also, alot of these people coming to this current Wembley games seem to be American. I don't see them travelling half the world for a pre-season match.

What would be handy is to put the game in front of a bye week, so the players could get some rest after the game. In soccer, although less physical, they have 2 games a week from time to time, because of the Champions League that's running at the same time as the national competitions. Soccer is 2 x 45 minutes of running and, as a soccer player myself for 6 years, that can make you quite sore. Yet, they're ready again.

Maybe it's not totally comparable, since you have the yet-lag, and the one day less of practice, but having an extra game in the middle of a season....


Rock you are right. Most fans will not care for a preseason game as it is meaningless more or less.
I am saying for them to fly over and back does take something out of the players. Sure they are young and can bounce back fairly quick. Both New Orleans and San Diego had their bye week after the game. I am sure it helps but still takes a toll. There is such a fine line between success and failure at the professional level (any professional sport.) I don't want to give away an advantage to the other teams that do not have to make the long trip.
Heck I hate it when GB has to play an away game after a Monday nite game. I also don't like the Thursday games either.
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#18 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 7:43:49 PM(UTC)
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Just one point

The Giants played at Wembley last season and won it all.
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#19 Posted : Sunday, December 7, 2008 6:25:59 PM(UTC)
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Yes Yes Yes

I have been to Green Bay twice and it takes a long time to save enough for those trips. So the thought of only travelling 50 miles to see the Green n Gold. I would do anything to get a ticket for that as would many thousands of Packer fans over here.

Maybe a couple of years time (preferably when we've managed to get a run defence !).
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#20 Posted : Sunday, December 7, 2008 8:47:34 PM(UTC)
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As long as it is an away game, I think it's an advantage. If it is a home game then it's a huge disadvantage.

You only get 8 home games and if it was a home game then you'd be screwed out of one.
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#21 Posted : Monday, December 8, 2008 12:01:53 AM(UTC)
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At this very point, I could care less where.. North Pole, but I want to see this team play a complete game.. period.

Mental mistakes gone and fundamentals sound.. don't beat yourself.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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#22 Posted : Monday, December 8, 2008 11:20:00 AM(UTC)
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I would be okay with an away game in London

My cousin Alan and his wife Maggie form England made it a point, on their visit to Upper Michigan, to make their 1st stop after getting off the plane in Chicago, at Lambeau Field to buy Packer paraphenalia.

Alan was a huge Packer fan until his passing and I know he would be very excited oabout the Packers playing in London.
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#23 Posted : Monday, December 8, 2008 2:06:29 PM(UTC)
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It would be a huge disruption on the season overall.. taking the team out of a normal weekly routine and add fatigue to the season.. that would be the hesitation.

But it would be a absolute treat to share this team with the fans abroad.. for that reason.. I would like to see it.
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#24 Posted : Monday, December 8, 2008 3:41:31 PM(UTC)
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i didn't relise there was an english packer fan here ...cool
i went to the giants / dolphins game last year and couldn't get a ticket to this years game , just my effing luck i end up going to the mudfest and miss a classic , i for one would go to the game , even though i'm a viking fan , i'd go even if it was the lions i just want a team from the nfc north to come over , next years game looks good , but i dread to think what the english media is going to make of bellichick and grudgen hardly the two most media friendly guys in the league
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#25 Posted : Monday, December 8, 2008 7:28:05 PM(UTC)
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in 2009 the buccs will host the patriots on oct 25th at wembley, so we have to wait at least another year ;)
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