beast
8 years ago

I didn't see that. What I saw was aaron making his first read then having to move out of the pocket.

Originally Posted by: cheeseheads123 



I think we were watching different games... because the Packers @ Broncos game I saw, the Broncos held Rodgers in the pocket, not letting him out, and the announcers openly talked about how Rodgers first read was never open and he was having to go to second and third reads, which you could watch him moving his head to at least 2 targets and normally more but Rodgers couldn't find anyone open, pull the trigger and accurately get the ball there... again shockingly missing on some of the check down passes.



I have no idea if Rodgers might of got a concussion or not (and I'm doubting he did), but that would explain some of the results. ... and if I remember right, one time Rodgers got a concussion and he and the staff didn't notice.... and Driver noticed and said something about his eyes looking bigger and different.
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luigis
8 years ago

I think we were watching different games... because the Packers @ Broncos game I saw, the Broncos held Rodgers in the pocket, not letting him out, and the announcers openly talked about how Rodgers first read was never open and he was having to go to second and third reads, which you could watch him moving his head to at least 2 targets and normally more but Rodgers couldn't find anyone open, pull the trigger and accurately get the ball there... again shockingly missing on some of the check down passes.



I have no idea if Rodgers might of got a concussion or not (and I'm doubting he did), but that would explain some of the results. ... and if I remember right, one time Rodgers got a concussion and he and the staff didn't notice.... and Driver noticed and said something about his eyes looking bigger and different.

Originally Posted by: beast 



The Broncos played a containment rush, that's what works best against Rodgers.
And as Texas said our OL had quite a bad game.

I'm starting to agree with Texas that is is amazing how everybody is writing about how great Denver played and nobody is disecting the horrible game we had from the planning (LOL) to the play of the OL that nobody even mentions.

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gbguy20
8 years ago

Aaron wasn't looking for his first read. According to Gary Ellerson, NFL Network just did a segment on all the open guys Aaron passed over in this game.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



can i please get a link to this
nerdmann
8 years ago

can i please get a link to this

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



Gary Ellerson, LeRoy Butler and the boys, talking about how Aaron was passing up open guys, waiting to go deep, holding the ball too long and stat whoring.

2pm HOUR 

3pm HOUR . IIRC this is the one were Ellerson says NFL Network did a segment showing all the guys that were open, to whom Aaron would NOT throw the ball.

4pm HOUR .

5pm HOUR
 


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gbguy20
8 years ago

Gary Ellerson, LeRoy Butler and the boys, talking about how Aaron was passing up open guys, waiting to go deep, holding the ball too long and stat whoring.

2pm HOUR 

3pm HOUR . IIRC this is the one were Ellerson says NFL Network did a segment showing all the guys that were open, to whom Aaron would NOT throw the ball.

4pm HOUR .

5pm HOUR
 

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



thanks.
yooperfan
8 years ago

Gary Ellerson, LeRoy Butler and the boys, talking about how Aaron was passing up open guys, waiting to go deep, holding the ball too long and stat whoring.

2pm HOUR 

3pm HOUR . IIRC this is the one were Ellerson says NFL Network did a segment showing all the guys that were open, to whom Aaron would NOT throw the ball.

4pm HOUR .

5pm HOUR
 

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


It's a puzzling situation, but I find it hard to believe that Rodgers puts his personal stats above winning.

sschind
8 years ago

It's a puzzling situation, but I find it hard to believe that Rodgers puts his personal stats above winning.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



It may not be that he is putting personal stats above winning rather he saw the long ball as the best way to win. Unfortunately to the extent of ignoring the short game.

What I saw Sunday night was a Broncos team that played lights out and I think it really got to Rodgers. I think he felt he had to do something big to break us out of whatever the hell it was we were in so he felt like he had to do it all himself. Sometimes that is a good thing sometimes not. I think Sunday night was one of those sometimes not games.
nerdmann
8 years ago

It may not be that he is putting personal stats above winning rather he saw the long ball as the best way to win. Unfortunately to the extent of ignoring the short game.

What I saw Sunday night was a Broncos team that played lights out and I think it really got to Rodgers. I think he felt he had to do something big to break us out of whatever the hell it was we were in so he felt like he had to do it all himself. Sometimes that is a good thing sometimes not. I think Sunday night was one of those sometimes not games.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



The Broncos played lights out, and we "showed up emotionally flat." However we tend to do that on a pretty regular basis, most famously the last 5:00 of the season this past January.

That tendency has not gotten fixed.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
texaspackerbacker
8 years ago

It's a puzzling situation, but I find it hard to believe that Rodgers puts his personal stats above winning.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



There's only one very limited way I agree with this "stat-whoring" crap: I think he kinda cherishes his extremely low interception percentage, and he goes to the extreme to avoid them. In general, that's not a bad thing, but there might be some very rare cases where it hurts. That play where Collingsworth said Cobb was open over the middle and Aaron missed him - what I saw was two LBs crossing, kinda marginally between Rodgers and Cobb. He might have been able to thread the needle, but I think I will go with our all world QB's judgment on the field rather than that of a talking head up in the booth.
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luigis
8 years ago

There's only one very limited way I agree with this "stat-whoring" crap: I think he kinda cherishes his extremely low interception percentage, and he goes to the extreme to avoid them. In general, that's not a bad thing, but there might be some very rare cases where it hurts. That play where Collingsworth said Cobb was open over the middle and Aaron missed him - what I saw was two LBs crossing, kinda marginally between Rodgers and Cobb. He might have been able to thread the needle, but I think I will go with our all world QB's judgment on the field rather than that of a talking head up in the booth.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



The problem is that sometimes you can't win a game unless you take some risks. And the game against Denver was one clear example, just waiting for somebody to get open wasn't working so you have to throw some contested balls and hope Cobb or JJ can win a one on one match.

So either Rodgers is dumb to think he can win the game without throwing or he is not dumb but he is so worried about his stats that he can't throw a contested ball even if that is what is needed. I don't like either case.

I prefer to think he was just being disciplined and following a horrible gameplan by MM. Gameplans we can change...
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