PLAYOFFS ? Can the Packers get in ?· Page 2

luigis
Member

8 years ago

Not to beat a dead horse, but we had an even great percentage to beat the Seahawks in the NFC Championship Game at one point. When you are spiralling in the wrong direction this team needs to find a way to emotionally rally. I am not convinced having Mike and his stoic demeanor and Dom in the booth can send the in-game message that is needed at times. We need the team leaders to step up as well. Aaron, Clay, Julius, JJ all need to show a bit more leadership on the sideline when things go wrong in my opinion. It just wasn't there from what I saw against Detroit. I miss Kevin Greene on the sidelines.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla

No dead horse beaten but I find it hard to imagine a scenario where we are not one of 6 NFC teams in postseason.

And I miss Kevin Greene a LOT, I've always wondered why he left. I think he might have aimed for a DC position with our team...

Luis

DoddPower
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#12

Originally Posted by: luigis

Yeah, a team likely doesn't want or need a staff full of Kevin Greene's running around, but it's important to at least have a few.

hardrocker950
Member

8 years ago

#13

Yeah, a team likely doesn't want or need a staff full of Kevin Greene's running around, but it's important to at least have a few.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

It always seemed like he was very involved, and struck me as motivational. While you would think being paid millions to play your favorite game, the motivation would already exist - apparently there is something else at work here....

Smokey
Veteran Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

#14

Coaching is not the answer, and the Packers are motivated. The answer is not in players that need 1 to 2 years to level up to the NFL level.

gbguy20
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#15

Coaching is not the answer, and the Packers are motivated. The answer is not in players that need 1 to 2 years to level up to the NFL level.

Originally Posted by: Smokey

Aside from maybe 10 players out of each draft, everyone needs 1-2 years.

You're an idiot. Report me.

DoddPower
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#16

Originally Posted by: hardrocker950

Yeah, millions of dollars is a great motivator. But ultimately, it's still a job and most every player is making lots of money. It often takes more than that to push players above the fray.

Smokey
Veteran Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

#17

Aside from maybe 10 players out of each draft, everyone needs 1-2 years.

You're an idiot. Report me.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

I liked your proposed resolution for the Packers problems. Oh wait, you didn't have one did you ? So you must revert to your 8th grade position of calling people names. Well if that's the best you have, you could rise someday to lawnmower/snowblower operator.

IMO, maintaining the status qua year after year only waist the best years of the few elite players that the Packers are lucky to have.

[twocents]

gbguy20
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#18

I liked your proposed resolution for the Packers problems. Oh wait, you didn't have one did you ?

Originally Posted by: Smokey

Oh, is that what this was for you?

Coaching is not the answer, and the Packers are motivated. The answer is not in players that need 1 to 2 years to level up to the NFL level.

Originally Posted by: Smokey

Because it sure doesn't sound like "a resolution to fix their problems" to me. It some sounds like someone placing unrealistic expectations on the draft each year. Or someone calling for us to tank it every year to draft in the top 10. Either way, it's stupid.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

8 years ago

#19

You're an idiot. Report me.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

this is an example of what this forum does not need.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

Coaching is not the answer, and the Packers are motivated. The answer is not in players that need 1 to 2 years to level up to the NFL level.

Originally Posted by: Smokey

Most analysts of the NFL agree that it will take ~3 years for a newly drafted player to "come into his own". So IF we are going to demand or expect a player to dominate within their first two seasons, I think it shows a lack of understanding of how large of a gap there is between the college talent level and professional talent level.

2014: 4 of 256 drafted players made Pro Bowl
2013: 7 of 254 drafted players made Pro Bowl
2012: 15 of 254 drafted players made Pro Bowl

So basically 26 of 764 players drafted in the last three NFL Draft have made the Pro Bowl. That's about 3.4% and it's just unreasonable to expect the Packers to land them all.

Something else noteworthy is only 1.6% of players make it from college to the professional level.

I think I've outlined my resolution for the Packers problems already so I won't go rehashing them in another thread, lol.

packerfanoutwest
Member

8 years ago

#20

The way these guys are playing, they will be lucky to make it to the playoffs. They will lose to the Vikings Sunday, also losses against the Cowboys, Cardinals and even the Raiders. Heck who knows, the way the OL is playing, they may not win another game cuz they can't protect Rodgers and he may be getting a concussion very soon. The team troubles are not coaching related, play calling is fine, it's just that the players are not executing. Viking will win by double digits with the previous 6-0 Packers being embarrassed once again. When you play not to lose, you lose.

Take this with a grain of salt, go check out your "expert picks" polls. The majority are picking the Vikings.......

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