Barfarn
7 years ago

Look I get that it's hard to bench a superstar but if Rodgers really is that bad that he's completely single handedly destroying the team then McCarthy absolutely deserves to be fired for not sitting him down. Hell Mike can't even muster up the juice to bench him before the last drive in a complete blowout last week.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



You're trying to apply solid logical thinking to an irrational situation.

My idea to bench Rodgers was to motivate him to wake up. The Dunne article tells us that once Rodgers is benched, its forever. The guy wont even talk to his G-pa for whatever G-pa did or didn;t do. If Mike benches Rodgers, Rodgers will go nuts. He'd be a horror on the bench, he'd do whatever he could to sabotage in the media; it would not even shock to learn he'd call GB's adversary each week and give them the game plan.

Rodgers is a sadistically vindictive clown. So its not just about Hundley playing better than Rodgers. If you cut/trade Rodgers, then Hundley gets hurt, the season is over for sure. This may have been a reason for keeping Callahan, then injuries forced the taking of the 3rd QB spot.

There are just 2 choices: Play him or cut/trade him. The most prudent thing is to slug it out for the season; if Rodgers has some success his trade value increases. If you trade him now, you'll get at best a 3rd or 4th rounder. Though Rodgers wont be back next year, there's no need to rebuild, we'll be a good team with Hundley; maybe real good.
nerdmann
7 years ago

You're trying to apply solid logical thinking to an irrational situation.

My idea to bench Rodgers was to motivate him to wake up. The Dunne article tells us that once Rodgers is benched, its forever. The guy wont even talk to his G-pa for whatever G-pa did or didn;t do. If Mike benches Rodgers, Rodgers will go nuts. He'd be a horror on the bench, he'd do whatever he could to sabotage in the media; it would not even shock to learn he'd call GB's adversary each week and give them the game plan.

Rodgers is a sadistically vindictive clown. So its not just about Hundley playing better than Rodgers. If you cut/trade Rodgers, then Hundley gets hurt, the season is over for sure. This may have been a reason for keeping Callahan, then injuries forced the taking of the 3rd QB spot.

There are just 2 choices: Play him or cut/trade him. The most prudent thing is to slug it out for the season; if Rodgers has some success his trade value increases. If you trade him now, you'll get at best a 3rd or 4th rounder. Though Rodgers wont be back next year, there's no need to rebuild, we'll be a good team with Hundley; maybe real good.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



That may be, but when other players see Aaron not being held accountable, they start to give up, not work as hard. They also begin to resent being held accountable themselves.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
steveishere
7 years ago

You're trying to apply solid logical thinking to an irrational situation.

My idea to bench Rodgers was to motivate him to wake up. The Dunne article tells us that once Rodgers is benched, its forever. The guy wont even talk to his G-pa for whatever G-pa did or didn;t do. If Mike benches Rodgers, Rodgers will go nuts. He'd be a horror on the bench, he'd do whatever he could to sabotage in the media; it would not even shock to learn he'd call GB's adversary each week and give them the game plan.

Rodgers is a sadistically vindictive clown. So its not just about Hundley playing better than Rodgers. If you cut/trade Rodgers, then Hundley gets hurt, the season is over for sure. This may have been a reason for keeping Callahan, then injuries forced the taking of the 3rd QB spot.

There are just 2 choices: Play him or cut/trade him. The most prudent thing is to slug it out for the season; if Rodgers has some success his trade value increases. If you trade him now, you'll get at best a 3rd or 4th rounder. Though Rodgers wont be back next year, there's no need to rebuild, we'll be a good team with Hundley; maybe real good.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 


Your logic where McCarthy is concerned still doesn't make sense. If you are talking trade after the season then it doesn't matter if benching him is permanent. According to you Rosgers is actively blowing the chances for a good team and McCarthy knows it's true and still won't switch QBs. That is absurdly bad coaching if true. So either McCarthy is making a big mistake or things aren't as bad with Rodgers on the field as you are saying.
Barfarn
7 years ago

Your logic where McCarthy is concerned still doesn't make sense. If you are talking trade after the season then it doesn't matter if benching him is permanent. According to you Rosgers is actively blowing the chances for a good team and McCarthy knows it's true and still won't switch QBs. That is absurdly bad coaching if true. So either McCarthy is making a big mistake or things aren't as bad with Rodgers on the field as you are saying.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



I'm saying: you only change QB's if it improves the team. Its not just Hundley for Rodgers; its Hundley for Rodgers and Rodgers being extra, super duper POISON cancer on bench.

You make Rodgers mad, its a lifelong invidious hate. If Hundley goes down, no one can be sure if Rodgers will even go in the game. So you got to get Rodgers off the team and find a new QB BEFORE Rodgers' demotion. That means a 3rd or 4th in trade.

Given this, you might as well wait to make the change.
Nonstopdrivel
7 years ago

When do Packers fans admit to overvaluing the talent on this team?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 


Their refusal to do just that is one of the most obnoxious things about them. Even worse is their rabid impugning of the fanhood of anyone who dares point out that certain players aren't elite. The impression I get is that far too many Packers fans exist in an echo chamber. They're fans of the franchise alone, not of the game of football in general, so they rarely watch any teams other than Green Bay. Consequently, they're unable to rationally evaluate this team in the context of the league at large.
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago
The fans aren't the ones who pegged the team a Super Bowl contender. That was the experts and Vegas.

How about you calm down your arrogant superiority complexes and realize you're not superior to anything but single ply ass wipe? Mike McCarthy Kay punkin?


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DakotaT
7 years ago

Their refusal to do just that is one of the most obnoxious things about them. Even worse is their rabid impugning of the fanhood of anyone who dares point out that certain players aren't elite. The impression I get is that far too many Packers fans exist in an echo chamber. They're fans of the franchise alone, not of the game of football in general, so they rarely watch any teams other than Green Bay. Consequently, they're unable to rationally evaluate this team in the context of the league at large.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Well you haven't been posting much the last few years, but people who do find the obvious holes in this team just get lambasted. We haven't had a decent inside linebacker since Bishop, or a decent tight end since Finley. And we keep going into these seasons with massive deficiencies but the echo chamber fans insist we're solid. Oh well, wait'll next year. 😂
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nerdmann
7 years ago

Well you haven't been posting much the last few years, but people who do find the obvious holes in this team just get lambasted. We haven't had a decent inside linebacker since Bishop, or a decent tight end since Finley. And we keep going into these seasons with massive deficiencies but the echo chamber fans insist we're solid. Oh well, wait'll next year. 😂

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



We have enough talent to have a winning record right now, easily.

OUr QB has enough talent to hitthe open guy, but he doesn't.
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Nonstopdrivel
7 years ago

Well you haven't been posting much the last few years, but people who do find the obvious holes in this team just get lambasted.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 


That's precisely why haven't posted much in the last few years. I gravitated more toward sites that covered the league at large, which was a refreshing escape from the echo chamber. Also, writing about the league for a living cured me of my emotional investment in the game. Now I watch the games with a dispassionate, often sardonic detachment, which actually makes the whole experience more fun for me. I can focus more on the pleasure of competition and less on the agony of defeat.
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Nonstopdrivel
7 years ago

We have enough talent to have a winning record right now, easily.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Whether it's due to lack of talent, failure to achieve potential, poor coaching, or adversity (injuries) is ultimately beside the point. Sometimes you have to be willing to admit you just suck. Otherwise you'll put off the hard decisions required to restore your organization to competitiveness.

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