Classic Mike McCarthy Choke.· Page 2

dyeah_gb
Member

7 years ago

#11

How about the other Choke Meister, Capers? Playing zone, a soft one at that too.

Originally Posted by: packerfanoutwest

No doubt the entire coaching staff should feel responsible. Everyone except Running Backs

The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool - R. Feynman

packerfanoutwest
Member

7 years ago

#12

The big catch by Jordy, did he save the fat assed HC's job?

Porforis
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#13

Yeah, I know we won, and I'll take it. But THIS is exactly what I'm talking about when I bitch about Mike getting emotionally tight when it matters. Then his team tightens up and people start dropping the ball, etc.

Mike is a very good coach, but this is his biggest weakness. He has no concept of sports psychology.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I agree.

That being said, dropsies really hurt us and I could not for the life of me understand why we were running soft zone coverage, or man that was so soft it looked like zone (I'm admittedly not great when it comes to identifying formations and the like).

Imagine that, the defense started actually slowing down Chicago once they started running within 5 yards of the receivers again come the latter part of the 4th quarter. Run that shit once you're up 3 TDs and it's the 4th quarter. This defense isn't good enough to fall back to zone and maintain a 2 score lead consistently.

luigis
Member

7 years ago

#14

If I see a soft zone scheme when winning by 10 or more again I'm going to die.

You are winning so you just let your opponent score a TD on a very quick drive, I'm speechless by this strategy.
Capers has a big problem with the defensive calls when we are winning the soft zone and absurd blitzes need to stop, just play standard defense, the clock is on our side, make them work hard for any points they can get.

I think Mike and Capers were closer to lose this one than what we think. We were saved by Fox, Fox is a horrible coach, Chicago only won 3 games this year, he is inside the 10 yard line of GB and he kicks a FG to tie the game and give Rodgers 1:27 to win? Fox played to either lose or go to OT and that doesn't make any sense. Had Fox gone for it playing to Win or Lose then we might be writing a very different thread this week, that's something to think about.

Luis

DoddPower
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#15

They could score a TD on every drive offensively and you would bitch about them under performing. Your analysis of the team is just noise and I just can't take it as anything more. Sorry, but you just spew the same thing, over and over and over again. It's more predictable than a clock. * yawn *

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Except a clock is actually right occasionally!!

hardrocker950
Member

7 years ago

#16

Originally Posted by: luigis

I had a lot of the same thoughts. This was one of those games where one more miscue would have been the difference maker. While I am always happy with a win - this one was much closer than it should have been.

I feel fortunate that the Bears kicked the 3 rather than going for the 4th down conversion - they probably would have gotten it. Had Jordy dropped that huge pass - we probably would have lost, the defense was giving away yards and points like Halloween candy. Hard to ignore the pair of TDs that Adams dropped, hopefully it was just a fluke and he gets his hands back. Defense played soft in the 4th and nearly cost us the game - step it up Dom!

I am not saying this game was a complete train wreck, but there were enough costly mistakes that could send you home in the playoffs - where the margin for error is very narrow.

Time to prepare for the Queens - clean up the mistakes and run the table!

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

7 years ago

#17

How about the other Choke Meister, Capers? Playing zone, a soft one at that too.

Originally Posted by: packerfanoutwest

I pose this more as a question to think about than an excuse as most will perceive. What if the offense gets a 1st down or two in the two final drives prior to the final? You go three and out and throw that defense right back onto the field, that's just not good. This isn't excusing the defense here because they still need to stop the drive even if they don't get a turnover.

As Nonstopdrivel says, turnovers are great, but you can't rely on a turnover to end a drive. You have to be able to force a punt.

Porforis
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#18

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Good counter-(complimentary?)point. As much as Schum did meh this game (I blame the cold for most of it), for once special teams didn't make a notable impact on this game apart from those vital FGs.

I also didn't like taking the points when we were up 7-0 in the first half and decided to go for it on 4th and 2 instead of taking the FG. It's a Bears-Packers game, it's going to be a wild one, and I don't like us in 3rd/4th and short situations. It's the 2nd quarter, take the points and build the lead and keep the momentum.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

7 years ago

#19

I also didn't like taking the points when we were up 7-0 in the first half and decided to go for it on 4th and 2 instead of taking the FG. It's a Bears-Packers game, it's going to be a wild one, and I don't like us in 3rd/4th and short situations. It's the 2nd quarter, take the points and build the lead and keep the momentum.

Originally Posted by: Porforis

If the Packers kicked and made that FG, the Bears would have been forced to go for it on 4th down and would have probably been up by 1 and that last drive would have had a lot more pressure on the team. When it was tied 27 up, you are more relaxed because in your mind you're thinking at worst it's a tie. When you're down by one, you know you gotta amp some shit up lol

Not excusing Mike McCarthy going for it earlier, just tossing that out there. Also, I was good with going for it, I just very much didn't like the play call, or at least what looked like what was called. I think on 4th and 3 you run quick slants and lead the WR to the ball and zingalingding 1st down!!

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#20

Amazing that basically every DC in the league that actually gets paid goes into a soft defense, when all the experts watching from home know better.

So what do you want Mike to do? If he just runs the ball to eat clock and burn timeouts, you complain that he is choking, when he is running pretty much normal plays and the clock doesn't get chewed up, you complain that he is choking. It couldn't possibly be that for two series in the 4th, the offense didn't execute enough, not could it.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

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