uffda udfa
6 years ago
We have a couple of segments on this board as to how we view Hundley. I happen to agree with both sides, but my perspective is different.

Yes, there is no question that it's hard to judge Hundley based on his first few real games as even some of the all time greats were terrible in the beginning. However, not many were supposedly put into a turnkey situation like Brett.

The real issue is what is happening right now. Our season is falling like sands through the hourglass while Hundley is out there mucking it up. This is not the scenario in which you should be seeing this. Brett Hundley should've played a lot more when we were in blowout scenarios better preparing himself for this eventuality of Aaron's absence as it'd happened previously. The organizational failure is what is maddening, not that Hundley has been terrible. A new QB is going to usually struggle, but it's the org's job to have a QB who can go in who won't. He was sent in with NOBODY having any idea what was going to happen. To go in blind like that, again, is an organizational failing.

Hundley may one day be good...great, even. Now, just wasn't the time to watch him experience growing pains while the season goes down the tubes. He was better suited to be a 3rd QB as opposed to the guy we'd have to count on when a scenario such as this arose.

So, yes, Hundley is new...Hundley needs time...It's unfair to overly pan him... However, it is not unfair to pan the crap out of the org for creating this scenario in the first place. Hundley is a victim as much as the fans who have to watch and the rest of the players on the team who have to suffer through his brutal performances.

Saw Hoyer play for the Pats when they were up big. Ol' Belichick always preparing, readying his team for scenarios while we just trotted out a guy with no real game experience hoping he'd carry us far enough to make it matter until Aaron's potential return.

Give Hundley the time...give Hundley some grace, this isn't his fault he's this unprepared. He also may have developed "house mouse" mentality where he got so comfortable with not playing that it's been hard getting into the mindset he is actually live now. House mouse is what they call a cop who gets put inside the office taken off the streets. Hundley is the reverse...he was used to just doing nothing, but now he has to take live action and he may not be there mentally even after all these weeks.

Again, don't discount the pressure he's placing on himself. The home performances really make me believe that the weight of Aaron's shadow is too much for him and he's trying way too hard. Pittsburgh is a roadie but it's also national TV. A huge underdog spread has to be pressure relieving to the outside world but I'll bet inside the lockerroom there's a ton of pressure on him still to perform. The gum chewing like Pete Carroll is a physical sign of inward nervousness. Cam Newton chews blue gum during games but you rarely see his jaw chomping up and down on it. Hundley gives Pete Carroll a run for his money. When the jaw slows the body will follow.

Ultimately, I'm very disappointed with the execution prior to this eventuality with Aaron. It was botched as badly as the Bostick onside kick. There is no excuse for that with a "winning" organization. We should know that the guy going in after Aaron isn't as good but is good enough to win a few games in the short run, not have no earthly idea like the entire world of what Hundley was going to bring.

I hope the kid plays the game of his life in Pittsburgh and this is like Flynn at New England. I doubt it and think we'll get completely destroyed and he'll fall flat, but that's just him experiencing growing pains unprepared by the guy who was supposedly hired due to his uncanny ability with QBs. I think that has proven to be quite the false narrative and backs the idea that he should've never gotten a sniff as a HC with us.

Also, have you ever thought to yourself...what if the Packers didn't participate in the NFL draft? Do you think Hundley goes undrafted? I think that was a very good possibility. We'll never know for sure, but it only takes one team to defy logic and draft a Quincy Carter when he shouldn't be drafted at all. Perhaps, the entire NFL outside of the Packers knew Hundley wasn't an NFL QB and we just got it wrong?

This is not Hundley's fault. He is who he is and that has been anything but good enough and our "winning" organization needs to fall on their swords for it.
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yooperfan
6 years ago
Zeke Bratkowski, Packers "super sub", this kid is not!
The combo of Thompson and McCarthy are not Vince Lombardi either.
When Vince"s star QB went down Vince knew his backup QB could step in.
Thompson and McCarthy had no clue after watching their backup for 2.5 years.
And here we are today, poor preparation from the top down.
buckeyepackfan
6 years ago

Zeke Bratkowski, Packers "super sub", this kid is not!
The combo of Thompson and McCarthy are not Vince Lombardi either.
When Vince"s star QB went down Vince knew his backup QB could step in.
Thompson and McCarthy had no clue after watching their backup for 2.5 years.
And here we are today, poor preparation from the top down.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



Did Vince not make a trade with The Rams to get Zeke to The Packers when Bart went down?

That's a long time ago, but I'm pretty sure that's how it happened.

Some still say that it was past the deadline, but those were different times and Vince used his clout to make the trade happen.

Found this from Chris Christy:

On acquiring quarterback Zeke Bratkowski from the Los Angeles Rams for the $100 waiver price a week after Starr suffered a hairline fracture in his right hand in the sixth game in 1963, and then giving the Rams backup center Ken Iman in exchange when the season ended: “John Roach hadn’t played that poorly, but Vince wasn’t convinced that he was the answer. Zeke was strong and had a great arm. He was a good guy on the team and he was better off when he didn’t start. He’d get tight. He was better off coming off the bench. He didn’t do as much fretting and worrying, I don’t think.”
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yooperfan
6 years ago

Did Vince not make a trade with The Rams to get Zeke to The Packers when Bart went down?

That's a long time ago, but I'm pretty sure that's how it happened.

Some still say that it was past the deadline, but those were different times and Vince used his clout to make the trade happen.

Found this from Chris Christy:

On acquiring quarterback Zeke Bratkowski from the Los Angeles Rams for the $100 waiver price a week after Starr suffered a hairline fracture in his right hand in the sixth game in 1963, and then giving the Rams backup center Ken Iman in exchange when the season ended: “John Roach hadn’t played that poorly, but Vince wasn’t convinced that he was the answer. Zeke was strong and had a great arm. He was a good guy on the team and he was better off when he didn’t start. He’d get tight. He was better off coming off the bench. He didn’t do as much fretting and worrying, I don’t think.”

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 


You got it!

Cheesey
6 years ago
We SHOULD have built a decent DEFENSE in that time.
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