MM Walking Away?· Page 2

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

6 years ago

In situations like these, when there is a flurry of conflicting rumors flying hither and yon, I always assume that organizations are deliberately engaging in aggressive "canary trap " (also known as "barium meal test") campaigns to test various channels for leaks. It's certainly what I would do. I can't think of a more efficient way of determining whom you can trust and who's got the wagging tongue.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

#12

Wilde said on his radio show...I'm listening to the pod right now... Wilde said what Bob wrote, today, about Mike McCarthy walking away if Ball is hired is something he'd heard before and knew of personally, but just didn't feel he had the source to write it cold like Bob thinks he does. So, if anyone tells you this is all fabricated because it's Bob saying it. NO. Never has been.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

#13

I CALLED IT! Evil Conspiracy Theories BULLSHIT! You don't like some side, so it must be evil... and this is proof you're biased as hell, and you lack objectivity.

Originally Posted by: beast

Calm yourself. I used a metaphor. My goodness. Biased? YES. It's a secret to you that I didn't like Ted and the way we've been run for years? Wow, what a detective job. Of course, I hate it. Hate it. Think it's held this org back from SBs. My BIAS is for SUPERBOWLS. The buddy club is an impediment. You look really foolish posting that. Really foolish.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

DoddPower
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#14

I hope Mike McCarthy does leave. It makes no sense to clean most of the house but not all of it. Hit the reset button and start over. Keeping McCarthy around makes all of this very awkward. Most GMs would want to choose their own head coach.

beast
Select Member

6 years ago

#15

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

I'm okay with looking foolish for being perfectly correct. You're creating red herring by saying they're creating conspiracy theories, trying to manipulate us fan though the media... if they do what you don't want. You look like a conspiracy theory nut job. And then if they place Ball in the role of GM then you're claiming you'll leave, which made you look like a cry baby... crying about something that hasn't even freaking happened (yet).

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

#16

You're not perfectly correct nor are you close. The crybaby crack is fair. I own that. What people call conspiracy theories are often truths that the general public can't handle. You can't handle the idea that this could possibly happen. Why? It isn't whack job crazy talk. My error it appears is that this wasn't being done to appease MM, as we're now being told their relationship is the opposite of what we thought.

A lot of us like things nice and steady and this is very upsetting and confusing going through this. Me? I love this. I hate the idea of Russ Ball and or Darren Perry but I love the nature of what is happening. Things are happening and it's really fun following this story. What will win out, here?

I own that I will leave if Russ Ball is the next GM and Mike McCarthy stays. That is the same pile of crap I was served for too long. If Russ comes in, and Belichick were to come here, I may have a change of heart. It would be Bill's show. The lies of Murphy would burn me but if it effected proper change that has been needed I could live with it but would want him gone.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

beast
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6 years ago

#17

What people call conspiracy theories are often truths that the general public can't handle. You can't handle the idea that this could possibly happen. Why? It isn't whack job crazy talk.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

I hate the idea of Russ Ball and or Darren Perry but I love the nature of what is happening. Things are happening and it's really fun following this story. What will win out, here?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

That's just strange, so you both love and hate this? I think you just love to keep tinkering and continuous change, no matter what, to keep things interesting and because you think change = improvement. Where I think change can be better or worse.

The lies of Murphy would burn me but if it effected proper change that has been needed I could live with it but would want him gone.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

What are these lies? Can you prove they're lies? or is that just opinion?

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

#18

This is completely a whack job crazy talk... the idea of everyone (except McGinn) working on a secretly conspiracy to trick you is 100% freaking nuts... you (nor any of us) are that important to them.

That's just strange, so you both love and hate this? I think you just love to keep tinkering and continuous change, no matter what, to keep things interesting and because you think change = improvement. Where I think change can be better or worse.

What are these lies? Can you prove they're lies? or is that just opinion?

Originally Posted by: beast

Ohhhh, beast. You, again, speak without knowledge. Totally uninformed. Wilde said on a pod a couple of days ago the org would spin it that Ted left of his own accord. I'm sorry that truth is such an offensive concept. Do you think Ted said he wanted to step down? Do you? You like to hide behind your generalization but can you get down and dirty and discuss?

What are lies? Ted didn't say he wanted to step down. Ted wasn't not there because he hates the media. Ted is not himself and he's also disgraced. He was stripped of a job he loved. You think they're going to trot him out in his condition and after what they did to him? You buy the lie that this was Ted's idea? Ted wanted to be a scout? That's LAUGHABLE. Ever studied body language? Murphy is a liar. The idea was to use Ted to help Russ to get Ted out of the public eye. Why would that be a conspiracy? You want your org being fronted by a guy looking like Ted looked on SNF? That's a really really bad look for the org that they have a guy looking like that running their football team as they sit with their season falling apart and no playoffs.

Murphy doesn't speak well, inspires no one, is not confident and came across way over his head. You think he's a straight shooter who knows exactly how to make the Packers into SB champions? Yikes, if you do.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

beast
Select Member

6 years ago

#19

Ohhhh, beast. You, again, speak without knowledge. Totally uninformed.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

So I pulled an uffda? You're kinda of the expert at it, so I guess you would know. You make all these wild claims, none of which you can even slightly prove.... it's just your opinion, so you stupidly tell the rest of us it must be true facts, but that's clearly opinions and not facts.

isocleas2
Member

6 years ago

#20

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

He asked you for proof of these lies. You offered a podcast with Wilde and body language? What CIA training school did you pick those skills up at?

I've told you before you need to lay off the conspiracy theories I think you're only buying into them more and more. Thinking everyone is lieing to you and trying to get you is what people detaching from reality often experience. This is not a healthy direction my friend.

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