DoddPower
5 years ago
I think that the Packers could have probably done a little more to sure up some weaknesses (although I've felt that way most years). I could see an argument that Gute tried to address some weaknesses this year, but that he isn't going "all in" on this season in hopes of making a stronger push next year. Perhaps he thought it would take another offseason to truly bring the Packers into contention. I wouldn't call this "punting", but it'd be hard to argue he did everything possible to chase a Super Bowl this season.
Nonstopdrivel
5 years ago

It is curious that the accolades for the past regime were endless...and now the cupboard there is a realization that "the talent just isn't there"

Originally Posted by: Fitness 


I don't think these concepts are necessarily mutually exclusive. Ted Thompson arguably did his best work early in his tenure. It's entirely possible both that the accolades he received were well deserved and that a lot of the products he put on the shelf are approaching or past their expiration dates, and that the larder is rapidly going bare. It's not an either/or situation
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Zero2Cool
5 years ago

I don't think these concepts are necessarily mutually exclusive. Ted Thompson arguably did his best work early in his tenure. It's entirely possible both that he the accolades he received were well deserved and that a lot of the products he put on the shelf are approaching or past their expiration dates, and that the larder is rapidly going bare. It's not an either/or situation

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



GM's usually succeed early on due to higher draft picks.
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bboystyle
5 years ago

GM's usually succeed early on due to higher draft picks.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Except Ted Thompson

Hes special.....
beast
5 years ago

I don't think these concepts are necessarily mutually exclusive. Ted Thompson arguably did his best work early in his tenure. It's entirely possible both that the accolades he received were well deserved and that a lot of the products he put on the shelf are approaching or past their expiration dates, and that the larder is rapidly going bare. It's not an either/or situation

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Yeah it's Thompson latest drafts that have seemed to be a lot of strike outs... when he has reportedly had more medical problems and delegated more duties out... They were in the NFC Champs game a couple of time, so there was talented there not long before these recent drafts.

Also despite the tightwad teddy label, they surely spend all but 5 million of their money which they keep rolling over year to year (so they 5 million is really from like 2007, so it's not a current waste)... and the contracts they signed were just getting to be too much with the talent they were getting out of them. I think over paying their own, might of been their biggest problem, with guys like Randall Cobb being over paid and not quite delivering.


But I'll still say, I don't believe Thompson followed a strictly BPA as some say... because it took a while but I did notice a pattern... under Thompson the Packers often drafted for need, especially with their 2nd round pick... it's just they looked at 2 year plan needs... and they often drafted/filled next year's need with an important guy going into a contract year. Which fans didn't noticed as a need at the time, because we just assumed that player would be resigned. Using that method, I surprised myself and correctly predicted that in 2017 the 2nd round pick would be a Safety (Burnett/Haha contracts were coming up).
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nerdmann
5 years ago
Mike needed to not fall flat on his face early this season to keep his job. They got the wins (the Vikings game was stolen from us,) but the WAY he did it was just too damn sloppy.

He needs to knock it out of the park to keep his job. Swing for the fences, Mike.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Nonstopdrivel
5 years ago

Except Ted Thompson Hes special.....

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 


In context, your comment makes no sense. Kevin and I had just gotten done acknowledging that Ted Thompson did enjoy good success early in his reign as general manager.
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gbguy20
5 years ago

In context, your comment makes no sense. Kevin and I had just gotten done acknowledging that Ted Thompson did enjoy good success early in his reign as general manager.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Hi. I believe he was referring to Thompson struggling early in the draft.
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