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buckeyepackfan  
#21 Posted : Tuesday, December 2, 2008 9:28:44 PM(UTC)
Two years ago The Pack was sitting at 4-8, most were writing off the season, what happened?, Pack goes 4-0 last 4 games, and were the LAST team eliminated from the play-offs.

Pack does not control their destiney so they need to just go out and win the rest and see who's sittin at the top after week 17.

You can't worry about what everyone else is doing because it does no good.

Even if The Packers make it and get blown out in the play-offs, the experience alone is invaluable.

You don't win play-off games untill you lose enough to learn how to win them.

Go Pack!!!! ONE AT A TIME WILL GET US THERE!!!
Zero2Cool  
#22 Posted : Tuesday, December 2, 2008 9:40:00 PM(UTC)
The experience for Rodgers and the rest of the team in the playoffs would help out yes. Experience can not be priced.

I'm not worried about anyone else but the Packers, but when you think about the Packers and going four and zero... isn't it wise to look at the other teams to see what could be?
packersfan101101  
#23 Posted : Tuesday, December 2, 2008 9:55:08 PM(UTC)
im tired of defending the packers to my firends ( i live in ny) .. i sure hope they make the playoffs
bakler5  
#24 Posted : Tuesday, December 2, 2008 10:04:25 PM(UTC)
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im tired of defending the packers to my firends ( i live in ny) .. i sure hope they make the playoffs


Try living in Minnesota.
El3ment12  
#25 Posted : Tuesday, December 2, 2008 10:28:07 PM(UTC)
Why is everyone so down?? I still have hope man. We have an easy schedule, and the vikings finish their season against the giants. The Vikings have always sucked so we can count out them sucking again!
thetombradyhater  
#26 Posted : Tuesday, December 2, 2008 10:32:35 PM(UTC)
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im tired of defending the packers to my firends ( i live in ny) .. i sure hope they make the playoffs


same (both for defending and living in NY)
macbob  
#27 Posted : Tuesday, December 2, 2008 10:39:13 PM(UTC)
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The scenario I laid out is in my opinion the best scenario that is the most likely to occur IF we were to get in.


I do not think we will win out though. And I do not think the Vikings will lost more than one game in the last four. Even if they were to split two and two, I don't see us being able to string FOUR games together when we haven't done it at all this year, even if you back up to the pre season.

We can string two, sometimes a third against a crappy team. That's about it.

Unfortunately. I think the damn Vikings are going to get the division. Things are favoring them.


The only thing we've got going for us is the quality of our opponents--Bears have the best record (6-6), followed by Texans (5-7), Jags (4-8) and Lions (0-12).

So far we've been a pretty mediocre team, but so have these guys (with the exception of the Lions, who would give their right arm now to be just mediocre). We've yet to lose to a team with a record below .500.

With the Williams brothers (I know, they're not really brothers) out at Minn, that's gotta help.
alharrisdude31  
#28 Posted : Tuesday, December 2, 2008 10:41:22 PM(UTC)
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Let's say we win out ...

Green Bay Packers ( 5 - 7 ) [9 - 7]
[ul]W - Houston at Green Bay
W - Green Bay at Jacksonville
W - Green Bay at Chicago
W - Detroit at Green Bay[/ul]
Division 5 - 1



Minnesota Vikings ( 7 - 5 ) [9 - 7]
[ul]W - Minnesota at Detroit
L - Minnesota at Arizona
L - Atlanta at Minnesota
W - NY Giants at Minnesota *[/ul]
Division 4 - 2


Chicago Bears ( 6 - 6 ) [8 - 8]
[ul]W - Jacksonville at Chicago
L -New Orleans at Chicago
L - Green Bay at Chicago
W - Chicago at Houston[/ul]
Division 3 - 3

* Giants will have homefield wrapped up and will rest playerse while Vikings will be fighting for division title


[size=18]TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION[/size]
Two Clubs
[ul]1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss[/ul]

Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).

[ul]1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss[/ul]

















During the off season I had us 7 - 5 and going 3 - 1 in these last four games. I still say the best we do is 3 - 1 through these last four games. Obviously, that just won't be enough.

queens over the giants? somebody's :smoker:
bozz_2006  
#29 Posted : Tuesday, December 2, 2008 11:03:33 PM(UTC)
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im tired of defending the packers to my firends ( i live in ny) .. i sure hope they make the playoffs


Try living in Minnesota.
bozz_2006  
#30 Posted : Tuesday, December 2, 2008 11:05:09 PM(UTC)
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queens over the giants? somebody's :smoker:


that prediction is made with the assumption that NY will be resting their starters.
Jakest3r  
#31 Posted : Wednesday, December 3, 2008 12:05:39 AM(UTC)
^Might not be the case, I mean, who knows, Coughlin is an aggressive coach, and if you can recall from last year, the Vikings absolutely embarrassed the G-Men on their home turf. Never know, though it's obviously a valid possibility.
evad04  
#32 Posted : Wednesday, December 3, 2008 12:51:47 AM(UTC)
Williams Bros. suspended for final four games -- this can't help the Vikes win 3 out of 4. Of course, we still need to win out.
HoustonMatt  
#33 Posted : Wednesday, December 3, 2008 1:00:24 AM(UTC)
What's interesting is that with the news of the Williams' Bros, the Vikes going 1-3 is not out of the realm of possibility. I imagine they might only be favored against the Lions. Were that to happen, they'd be 8-8.

Now the Bears losing to us and one of the Jax/Hou/NO games, again not out of the realm of possibility, they'd be 8-8.

If those two plausible scenarios play out, we're not out of it even if we drop one of the Jax/Hou games. We could still finish 8-8 and hold the tie breaker.

We shall see, but I suspect this thing won't be decided until Week 17.
GOPACKGO1225  
#34 Posted : Wednesday, December 3, 2008 7:24:01 AM(UTC)
It's going to be a scary ending, that's for sure.
dfosterf  
#35 Posted : Wednesday, December 3, 2008 10:15:22 AM(UTC)
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It's going to be a scary ending, that's for sure.


It could be argued that we have already had our scary ending. We are now competing on the commissioner's nickel, thanks to the parking of the Williams' boys.

I feel like we got a new life. A huge part of me hopes our players don't feel the same way, as it could be argued they already squandered the first one. The good news is that we have screwed the pooch so bad, there is little or no danger of backing into the playoffs. Looks to me like we are going to have to actually start winning some football games to be in the hunt, winning all of them gives us a reasonable chance of winning the division, which is a bit more than we had 24 hours ago. Vikes fans have got to be more than a little frustrated by this recent development...I know that many were sweating Detroit before these suspensions (trap game)... now they are really nervous.

The good news for them is that we will be rooting for Detroit, and I can't recall them EVER helping us out--although I do seem to recall that they were once 0-12 going into a game and winning...who was that against....lemme think....oh ya, I remember now... it was against the Vikings.
tromadz  
#36 Posted : Wednesday, December 3, 2008 11:33:40 AM(UTC)
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Let's say we win out ...

Green Bay Packers ( 5 - 7 ) [9 - 7]
[ul]W - Houston at Green Bay
W - Green Bay at Jacksonville
W - Green Bay at Chicago
W - Detroit at Green Bay[/ul]
Division 5 - 1



Minnesota Vikings ( 7 - 5 ) [9 - 7]
[ul]W - Minnesota at Detroit
L - Minnesota at Arizona
L - Atlanta at Minnesota
W - NY Giants at Minnesota *[/ul]
Division 4 - 2


Chicago Bears ( 6 - 6 ) [8 - 8]
[ul]W - Jacksonville at Chicago
L -New Orleans at Chicago
L - Green Bay at Chicago
W - Chicago at Houston[/ul]
Division 3 - 3

* Giants will have homefield wrapped up and will rest playerse while Vikings will be fighting for division title


[size=18]TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION[/size]
Two Clubs
[ul]1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss[/ul]

Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).

[ul]1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss[/ul]

















During the off season I had us 7 - 5 and going 3 - 1 in these last four games. I still say the best we do is 3 - 1 through these last four games. Obviously, that just won't be enough.


Vikes wont win shit without the williams brothers. They lose out. Ill bet money on it.
IronMan  
#37 Posted : Wednesday, December 3, 2008 12:09:53 PM(UTC)
Its possible. But these guys have folded too many times this year for me to get too exited about our chances.
Cheesey  
#38 Posted : Wednesday, December 3, 2008 6:09:36 PM(UTC)
Fact is.......every week now our season is on the line.
It is litterally a MUST WIN here on out, unless BOTH the other teams self destruct.
obi1  
#39 Posted : Thursday, December 4, 2008 1:14:23 AM(UTC)
" said: Go to Quoted Post
" said: Go to Quoted Post
Let's say we win out ...

Green Bay Packers ( 5 - 7 ) [9 - 7]
[ul]W - Houston at Green Bay
W - Green Bay at Jacksonville
W - Green Bay at Chicago
W - Detroit at Green Bay[/ul]
Division 5 - 1



Minnesota Vikings ( 7 - 5 ) [9 - 7]
[ul]W - Minnesota at Detroit
L - Minnesota at Arizona
L - Atlanta at Minnesota
W - NY Giants at Minnesota *[/ul]
Division 4 - 2


Chicago Bears ( 6 - 6 ) [8 - 8]
[ul]W - Jacksonville at Chicago
L -New Orleans at Chicago
L - Green Bay at Chicago
W - Chicago at Houston[/ul]
Division 3 - 3

* Giants will have homefield wrapped up and will rest playerse while Vikings will be fighting for division title


[size=18]TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION[/size]
Two Clubs
[ul]1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss[/ul]

Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).

[ul]1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss[/ul]

















During the off season I had us 7 - 5 and going 3 - 1 in these last four games. I still say the best we do is 3 - 1 through these last four games. Obviously, that just won't be enough.


Vikes wont win shit without the williams brothers. They lose out. Ill bet money on it.


I agree! At least I hope so. ANY of these teams can win it outright with a 9-7 record... May be even a 8-8 could win it. Parity? No, Ineptness.
porky88  
#40 Posted : Thursday, December 4, 2008 3:08:13 AM(UTC)
I agree with Zero's take.

The Packers win out they'll probably get in because I think Minnesota is going 2-2 over this final stretch.

However, I don't know how the Packers can win out. They would have to turn into a completely different team to do so.

My guess is they'll finish 8-8 which would be fitting for a team that has gone back and forth all year.
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