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Offline Jakest3r  
#31 Posted : Wednesday, December 3, 2008 12:05:39 AM(UTC)

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^Might not be the case, I mean, who knows, Coughlin is an aggressive coach, and if you can recall from last year, the Vikings absolutely embarrassed the G-Men on their home turf. Never know, though it's obviously a valid possibility.
Offline evad04  
#32 Posted : Wednesday, December 3, 2008 12:51:47 AM(UTC)

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Williams Bros. suspended for final four games -- this can't help the Vikes win 3 out of 4. Of course, we still need to win out.
Offline HoustonMatt  
#33 Posted : Wednesday, December 3, 2008 1:00:24 AM(UTC)

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What's interesting is that with the news of the Williams' Bros, the Vikes going 1-3 is not out of the realm of possibility. I imagine they might only be favored against the Lions. Were that to happen, they'd be 8-8.

Now the Bears losing to us and one of the Jax/Hou/NO games, again not out of the realm of possibility, they'd be 8-8.

If those two plausible scenarios play out, we're not out of it even if we drop one of the Jax/Hou games. We could still finish 8-8 and hold the tie breaker.

We shall see, but I suspect this thing won't be decided until Week 17.
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#34 Posted : Wednesday, December 3, 2008 7:24:01 AM(UTC)

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It's going to be a scary ending, that's for sure.
Offline dfosterf  
#35 Posted : Wednesday, December 3, 2008 10:15:22 AM(UTC)

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It's going to be a scary ending, that's for sure.


It could be argued that we have already had our scary ending. We are now competing on the commissioner's nickel, thanks to the parking of the Williams' boys.

I feel like we got a new life. A huge part of me hopes our players don't feel the same way, as it could be argued they already squandered the first one. The good news is that we have screwed the pooch so bad, there is little or no danger of backing into the playoffs. Looks to me like we are going to have to actually start winning some football games to be in the hunt, winning all of them gives us a reasonable chance of winning the division, which is a bit more than we had 24 hours ago. Vikes fans have got to be more than a little frustrated by this recent development...I know that many were sweating Detroit before these suspensions (trap game)... now they are really nervous.

The good news for them is that we will be rooting for Detroit, and I can't recall them EVER helping us out--although I do seem to recall that they were once 0-12 going into a game and winning...who was that against....lemme think....oh ya, I remember now... it was against the Vikings.
Offline tromadz  
#36 Posted : Wednesday, December 3, 2008 11:33:40 AM(UTC)

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Let's say we win out ...

Green Bay Packers ( 5 - 7 ) [9 - 7]
[ul]W - Houston at Green Bay
W - Green Bay at Jacksonville
W - Green Bay at Chicago
W - Detroit at Green Bay[/ul]
Division 5 - 1



Minnesota Vikings ( 7 - 5 ) [9 - 7]
[ul]W - Minnesota at Detroit
L - Minnesota at Arizona
L - Atlanta at Minnesota
W - NY Giants at Minnesota *[/ul]
Division 4 - 2


Chicago Bears ( 6 - 6 ) [8 - 8]
[ul]W - Jacksonville at Chicago
L -New Orleans at Chicago
L - Green Bay at Chicago
W - Chicago at Houston[/ul]
Division 3 - 3

* Giants will have homefield wrapped up and will rest playerse while Vikings will be fighting for division title


[size=18]TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION[/size]
Two Clubs
[ul]1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss[/ul]

Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).

[ul]1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss[/ul]

















During the off season I had us 7 - 5 and going 3 - 1 in these last four games. I still say the best we do is 3 - 1 through these last four games. Obviously, that just won't be enough.


Vikes wont win shit without the williams brothers. They lose out. Ill bet money on it.
Offline IronMan  
#37 Posted : Wednesday, December 3, 2008 12:09:53 PM(UTC)

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Its possible. But these guys have folded too many times this year for me to get too exited about our chances.
Offline Cheesey  
#38 Posted : Wednesday, December 3, 2008 6:09:36 PM(UTC)

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Fact is.......every week now our season is on the line.
It is litterally a MUST WIN here on out, unless BOTH the other teams self destruct.
Offline obi1  
#39 Posted : Thursday, December 4, 2008 1:14:23 AM(UTC)

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Let's say we win out ...

Green Bay Packers ( 5 - 7 ) [9 - 7]
[ul]W - Houston at Green Bay
W - Green Bay at Jacksonville
W - Green Bay at Chicago
W - Detroit at Green Bay[/ul]
Division 5 - 1



Minnesota Vikings ( 7 - 5 ) [9 - 7]
[ul]W - Minnesota at Detroit
L - Minnesota at Arizona
L - Atlanta at Minnesota
W - NY Giants at Minnesota *[/ul]
Division 4 - 2


Chicago Bears ( 6 - 6 ) [8 - 8]
[ul]W - Jacksonville at Chicago
L -New Orleans at Chicago
L - Green Bay at Chicago
W - Chicago at Houston[/ul]
Division 3 - 3

* Giants will have homefield wrapped up and will rest playerse while Vikings will be fighting for division title


[size=18]TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION[/size]
Two Clubs
[ul]1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss[/ul]

Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).

[ul]1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss[/ul]

















During the off season I had us 7 - 5 and going 3 - 1 in these last four games. I still say the best we do is 3 - 1 through these last four games. Obviously, that just won't be enough.


Vikes wont win shit without the williams brothers. They lose out. Ill bet money on it.


I agree! At least I hope so. ANY of these teams can win it outright with a 9-7 record... May be even a 8-8 could win it. Parity? No, Ineptness.
Offline porky88  
#40 Posted : Thursday, December 4, 2008 3:08:13 AM(UTC)

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I agree with Zero's take.

The Packers win out they'll probably get in because I think Minnesota is going 2-2 over this final stretch.

However, I don't know how the Packers can win out. They would have to turn into a completely different team to do so.

My guess is they'll finish 8-8 which would be fitting for a team that has gone back and forth all year.
Offline Zero2Cool  
#41 Posted : Sunday, December 7, 2008 9:31:43 PM(UTC)

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" said: Go to Quoted Post
Let's say we win out ...

Green Bay Packers ( 5 - 8 ) [8 - 8]
[ul]L - Houston at Green Bay
W - Green Bay at Jacksonville
W - Green Bay at Chicago
W - Detroit at Green Bay[/ul]
Division 5 - 1



Minnesota Vikings ( 7 - 5 ) [9 - 7]
[ul]W - Minnesota at Detroit
L - Minnesota at Arizona
L - Atlanta at Minnesota
W - NY Giants at Minnesota *[/ul]
Division 4 - 2


Chicago Bears ( 6 - 6 ) [8 - 8]
[ul]W - Jacksonville at Chicago
L -New Orleans at Chicago
L - Green Bay at Chicago
W - Chicago at Houston[/ul]
Division 3 - 3

* Giants will have homefield wrapped up and will rest playerse while Vikings will be fighting for division title


[size=18]TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION[/size]
Two Clubs
[ul]1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss[/ul]

Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).

[ul]1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss[/ul]

















During the off season I had us 7 - 5 and going 3 - 1 in these last four games. I still say the best we do is 3 - 1 through these last four games. Obviously, that just won't be enough.


Yikes!!
Offline Zero2Cool  
#42 Posted : Monday, December 8, 2008 1:27:46 AM(UTC)

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Quote:
Green Bay Packers ( 5 - 8 ) [8 - 8]
[ul]W - Green Bay at Jacksonville
W - Green Bay at Chicago
W - Detroit at Green Bay[/ul]
Division 5 - 1



Minnesota Vikings ( 8 - 5 ) [8 - 8]
[ul]L - Minnesota at Arizona
L - Atlanta at Minnesota
L - NY Giants at Minnesota [/ul]
Division 4 - 2


Chicago Bears ( 7 - 6 ) [8 - 8]
[ul]L -New Orleans at Chicago
L - Green Bay at Chicago
W - Chicago at Houston[/ul]
Division 3 - 3



So... We need to win out.
Vikings lose out.
Bears lose two out of three and one of them two must be against us.




Yeah... so where do think the Packers will be golfing after Week 17? :)
Offline Blitz  
#43 Posted : Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:36:34 PM(UTC)

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[size=18]TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION[/size]
12. Coin toss

Is the Defense on the field during said coin toss?
Offline dfosterf  
#44 Posted : Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:39:28 PM(UTC)

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I like sitting in the "ten hole" in the draft, but I will still be yelling at either the TV in the bar or this stupid monitor along with all the other crazy basthaads that inhabit the gameday chat/you know what. The difference this week is that they can no longer break my heart for tyhe rest of the week. They already did that Sunday before last. I've already gone into PPO, given out my congrats to those folks (classy response on their part, btw) and resigned myself to looking for ways to fix this team. (If ONLY they would come to their senses and put ME in charge :icon_smile: )

Bottom line, what happens, happens this year. If the Vikes win the division, I sincerely hope they do well in the playoffs, if it's the Bears, well, I'm not THAT far gone, yet...

I plan to root extra hard for Brett and co... I would sure like our 3rd to become a 2nd or better...

If we are still mathematically alive after this weekend, well, like a wise politician once said, I'm not flip-floppin', I'm merely adjusting my position as a different set of facts unfold. :thumbleft:
Offline DarkaneRules  
#45 Posted : Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:47:02 PM(UTC)

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Yeah I tell you what being 8-8 into the playoffs... wouldn't that feel a little weird haha. I will wish good luck to whoever wins the division. Should be an interesting year in the post season regardless. This year has been crazy.
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