Pack93z
4 years ago
Love the pick.. dislike the cost of going to get him. Seen him in person play... we got a good player, worth a late first.

But this draft, like many, has great value in the 3rd and 4th... and we leveraged our 4ths to get him.

Mild gamble.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
4 years ago

Love the pick.. dislike the cost of going to get him. Seen him in person play... we got a good player, worth a late first.

But this draft, like many, has great value in the 3rd and 4th... and we leveraged our 4ths to get him.

Mild gamble.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



I'm not sure why some are upset about losing two 4th round picks. One of the picks was from the trading of Clinton-Dix. I know we landed David Bahktiari in the 4th ... I just am not that bent about it.
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sschind
4 years ago

Grading a pick 5 minutes after it is taken is just ridiculous.

They didn't take a TE.
Get over it.
Gutey is building HIS team.
He knows what he has currently on the roster.

Still plenty of TE talent left
We'll find out if Gutey has one targeted in the next 2 days.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Safety was a big need for us and the guy was apparently moving up fast on a lot of boards. What gets me is that people always say "we could have stayed put and still got him" or "we could have stayed put and got someone just as good" Well, the obvious answer to that is you never know. You might be able to and you might not. Obviously this is the guy Gute liked and I'm fine with the move. I don't like the GM attitude of "this guy is our top rated at the position but if we wait we might be able to get someone who we like almost as well." I think GMs who sit idly by and wait for the draft to come to them often get saddled with players no one else wants. Not that they may not be good just that if you really like a guy you go get him.

I was hoping for some decent depth with the two 4th rounders but honestly I was hoping to package at least one to move up in the first or second anyway so IMO its really only a loss of 1 and I don't know how high just 1 would have gotten us anyway.

I like the move better than the Gary pick but I'm not at all upset with that one either.

Cheesey
4 years ago
We chose a guy for NEED?!?!
What’s up with that??
JK!!!😂
Hopefully this guy will fill that need big time.
The 2 picks will hopefully lift our defense up off the mat. Our D has been huge in costing us wins.
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4 years ago

We chose a guy for NEED?!?!
What’s up with that??
JK!!!😂
Hopefully this guy will fill that need big time.
The 2 picks will hopefully lift our defense up off the mat. Our D has been huge in costing us wins.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I know you are kidding. Or at least being cheesey.

Teams always say the BPA just "happens" to also fill a need. BPA is sort of a misnomer. Typically there are about 10 players with similar grades on the board. You can choose anyone of them and get comparable value for them. If that is the case why not go with the one who is going to fill a need? The problem arises when you bump a player up so that he "ties" the grades of the other players because you need him. Taking the BPA even though you don't need him is when he is head and shoulders above everyone else. (Like Rodgers was.)
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

I know you are kidding. Or at least being cheesey.

Teams always say the BPA just "happens" to also fill a need. BPA is sort of a misnomer. Typically there are about 10 players with similar grades on the board. You can choose anyone of them and get comparable value for them. If that is the case why not go with the one who is going to fill a need? The problem arises when you bump a player up so that he "ties" the grades of the other players because you need him. Taking the BPA even though you don't need him is when he is head and shoulders above everyone else. (Like Rodgers was.)

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Numerous GM's and front office execs have said this is how good teams draft. They understand you are drafting for tomorrow, not today, thus, they trust their board. Meaning, if you are up to pick and you need DL and there is a RB and DL with same grade, and everything is equal, you go with "need'. The problem here is when front office folks mention this, they only hear "need pick" and fail to understand there are more details.

I am fine with this pick because the draft is pretty defensive loaded (based on all the experts comments) and the kid seems like a ball hawk. This what is going to blend well with Amos. He's more of a true Free Safety than we have on the roster. Chances are, he's going to start.
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4 years ago
I think he will start too. It won't be a shock if it's not against the bares. He may not have all the schemes down. But he will before the mid point in the season.

One thing the fans will have to remember is how long it took our other young FS to learn the system and the NFL as a whole. It could be a frustrating year at times.
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Smokey
4 years ago
Trading up in the 2019 NFL Draft to ensure that GB could get yet another Safety just set me aback. As highly rated as Darnell Savage is, on GB's roster he will sit behind Adrian Amos and Josh Jones and Tramon Williams on the Depth Chart. He may in time crack the starting lineup, but at best he will be a Kick Returner/Gunner on Special Teams.

I would have prefered that GB had kept their #30 pick and taken the best available DE or OT available. Florida's Jawaan Taylor or Oklahoma's Cody Ford come to mind. Either could be a great addition and become the primary backup to Bulaga and Bakhtiari. Spriggs and McCray and possibly Madison would fill out that part of the roster.

As it stands now, if GB does the best moving forward, they will pick (if available) TE Irv Smith from Alabama with pick #44. Getting a high quality OT with their #75 pick is unlikely. Billy Turner and Cole Madison might just see the Packers OL fill out the 2019 roster spots.

[twocents]

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earthquake
4 years ago
That gif where he jumps the route for the pick 6, reminds me of Charles Woodson. I'm not saying the guy is going to be Woodson, but man, he looks like he should be fun to watch at the very least.
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TheKanataThrilla
4 years ago
I keep on hearing that the guy was a great talent on a terrible team. One has to love the last name as well for a football player.
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