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wpr
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2019-11-05T22:57:04Z
I went to a funeral today for a 17 year old that committed suicide. I am friends with his grandfather.

Yes I was young once but it is so hard to understand why young people feel that death is their only option.

As I listened to his friends and family talk about him, I can see he had an extremely bright future ahead of him.

He was somewhat successful in sports. He had a lot of friends. He was popular and funny. His family loved him. He's had a girl friend or three. He had made some money. (He did a few commercials, had a cameo on a tv show and a decent part in a movie.) There was enough for college if that was the route he chose to go.

No one in the family saw this coming. No change in his demeanor.

Suicide is the 2nd highest cause of teen deaths.

It's very sad for everyone.
KRK
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2019-11-05T23:55:30Z
Man that sucks, such a waste.

Kid's brains and psyches are so vulnerable. They don't have time to be kids anymore. They don't have the ability to make mistakes without 200 camera phone catching it....and all their friends succumbing to woke culture and unfriending them.

Plus the libs are telling them that the world is going to end so what does it matter.

Growing up today is so much tougher than when we were kids.

That's why I love the PSA's by Michael Phelps regarding getting help.

I feel bad for you and your buddy.
TheKanataThrilla
2019-11-06T00:13:27Z
Mental Health issues seem to be getting worse.

You have to wonder with all the pressures that kids grow up under, unrealistic expectations as nobody is allowed to fail and the breakdown of the family have let so many vulnerable.

God bless young man. Suicide doesn't stop things getting worse as family and friends are left to pick up the pieces. It stops the chances of it getting better.
Cheesey
2019-11-06T01:11:55Z
Wayne, I’m sorry to hear of this.
One of the hardest things to handle, is not knowing why. It sounds like this young man had so much going for him.
It’s hardest for his parents and grandparents and other loved ones.
They will feel guilt for not seeing this coming, and not being able to stop it.
Please let your friend know that I’m truly sorry to hear about this.
Just be there for him.
Zero2Cool
2019-11-06T14:18:19Z
Originally Posted by: wpr 

I went to a funeral today for a 17 year old that committed suicide. I am friends with his grandfather.

Yes I was young once but it is so hard to understand why young people feel that death is their only option.

As I listened to his friends and family talk about him, I can see he had an extremely bright future ahead of him.

He was somewhat successful in sports. He had a lot of friends. He was popular and funny. His family loved him. He's had a girl friend or three. He had made some money. (He did a few commercials, had a cameo on a tv show and a decent part in a movie.) There was enough for college if that was the route he chose to go.

No one in the family saw this coming. No change in his demeanor.

Suicide is the 2nd highest cause of teen deaths.

It's very sad for everyone.



Terribly sorry to hear this. I hate hearing youths being hurt, or hurting themselves. So much yet to live for and that is not realized.

As someone who's been at those ropes, I would say it is not considered the only option, but, rather an option we don't understand the permanency of. It's the "easy" way out of troubles. At least, that is how I saw it myself.

Suicidal thoughts/tendencies are all around us. One of my daughters came to me saying one of her friends told her she was thinking of suicide. I replied "that is good she told you". I received a very confused and not happy look from my daughter who cut me off saying "What!". I realized I had to explain that in my experiences, those who talk about suicide are reaching out for help and have no actual intention of following through. After explaining this to my daughter, I said she trusts you, this is a call for help. Talk to her, listen to her, pay attention to her and be a good friend. Stay by her side through the tunnel until she sees the light.

A person can smile and not be happy. A person can be funny and be dying inside. Until we truly appreciate this, I don't think mental health will improve.

It seems we no longer seem to stop to smell the roses. I believe if we were to do that, we would probably notice the signs.

My rambling aside, I am very sorry Wayne.
Cheesey
2019-11-06T15:20:37Z
I don’t see that what you said was “rambling” , Kevin. I see it as important info. You never know WHO might be reading these threads, and it might be someone in a similar situation that doesn’t know how to approach the subject. You may be helping someone, and not even know it.
I went through it myself when I was sixteen. My Dad died, and my world fell apart. I sat in my bed with my rifle under my chin, crying. What stopped me was knowing that my Mom was downstairs, and what it would have done to her had I followed through.
It was enough to keep me from doing something terrible.
And here i am, still around 46 years later.
Porforis
2019-11-06T17:32:48Z
KRK
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2019-11-06T18:56:38Z
Porforis,

That was very powerful...thanks for sharing.

My point on climate change/end of the world hyperbole was not to be political, although reading it again, I can see that it was unnecessary...so apologies in that regard. Regrettably, it took away from the greater point which is that there is not much optimism in popular culture or politically when kid look at the news. That negativism doesn't help.

The negativism, harassment and assault you suffered are so unfair and damaging. I am sorry you had to endure them, and glad you survived them.

Again your experiences and observations are greatly appreciated.
Porforis
2019-11-06T19:54:58Z
wpr
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2019-11-06T22:22:50Z
Interesting comments. I appreciate your contributions. It's a sensitive subject. I am pretty sure everyone has been effected in some way by a suicide or attempted suicide.

I have a sister in law and 2 brother in laws that have attempted. One b-i-l was successful. His son found him.

My daughter had to check into a hospital for a week of treatment and counseling.
My son has PTSD.
My wife has taken pills to control her issues.

I look around and think there has to be a better way to decal with this problem. So many people are breaking. The way society views mental health issues has improved in the past 50 years. And even more so in the past 100 years but I think we have a long long way to go.

My secretary's youngest daughter was extremely troubled last year. Either written up or suspended from school on a number of occasions. She's 10. They tried many different medications to no avail. Finally as the school year was just about over they finally found a doctor who actually cared enough to listen to what the mom was telling him. This year has been a lot better.

I think I mentioned it here before but one of the things my son said to me is that everyone should have a professional counselor, social worker or therapist to talk to. Someone who will listen to them and let them get things off their chest. We have not gotten that far in our society to allow this. Perhaps some day we will.

Edit- I think one of the things I like about our packer home is we can do that here, to some extent.
KRK
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2019-11-06T23:25:18Z
I think there is less effort at meaningful relationship than there used to be.

The phone replaced face to face social communication. the text and Facebook and Instagram replaced the phone.

We have never been so electronically connected...and never more alone.

Rarely do I have meaningful conversations with family members unless we are going for a walk, which is when we have the best talks. Also at meals. These unplugged opportunities afford deeper, more emotionally connected conversation and relationship

The family dinner has been replaced by watching TV while grazing.

I think that we have to really emphasize and prioritize relationship and meaningful communication with people in our lives, and worry less about other things.
Cheesey
2019-11-07T01:01:30Z
One of today’s problem is that people don’t “talk”. They text. There isn’t the personal one on one interaction there used to be.
I hung out with a family 35 years ago. Spent a lot of time with their youngest son. I lost track of him. Found an article about him on line last year.....he had started his own company, had a multi million dollar home. A total success story.
He murdered his wife, his teenage son and two teenage daughters, then killed himself. No one saw it coming.
Just so sad.
wpr
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2019-11-21T20:26:58Z

Well, shit.
This morning I had a long time friend overdose. I never ever EVER would have expected it from her. She and her husband sold their business. I don't have any of the facts yet but I am positive she/they took some of the money and had a big party.

Another man who was close to my secretary committed suicide yesterday. His kids found him.

We had a drive by shooting in a nearby town a couple of days ago. The son of another friend was hit and is hospitalized.

Turns out the young man at the beginning of this thread was into drugs too.

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Cheesey
2019-11-21T20:50:30Z
Geez, Wayne. You are getting it from all sides.
I think all the negatives into today’s world is affecting more people then we even know.
You can’t escape all the negative “news”. It’s on the TV, your phone, your computer.
And drugs are everywhere.
This world is messed up.
And all you hear is “doom and gloom”.
How do they expect people to react?
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