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Blank402  
#21 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:09:36 AM(UTC)
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2009/fa/ol.html

Jordan Gross, UFA, Carolina Panthers
A first round pick in 2003, Gross earned a starting role in his rookie season and held that role as a tackle for the entire season. His ability to step in and play well right away paid off for the Panthers, as the team put together a run to an NFC Championship. Hes continued being a starter since that rookie season and is a solid player. Carolina slapped the franchise tag on him for this season, and chances are he will be another team come 09.


He's only 28, he has experience in the zone blocking system, he's been incredibly durable (never missed a game), and he has the versatility to play both tackle positions. With Tausher going on IR and being a FA this offseason, is there any reason we shouldn't sign this guy?
shield4life  
#22 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:54:44 AM(UTC)
... I say sign this guy and just draft good
blueleopard  
#23 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2008 5:14:06 AM(UTC)
I'd much rather go the route of defensive linemen.
Rockmolder  
#24 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2008 6:43:34 AM(UTC)
Like I said before, I really like this guy. Like you said, he's never missed a game, played in our scheme and is just a good player. He's not amazing like Faneca, so I asume we won't have to pay tht much.

With Cliffy and Tauscher not getting any younger, we need at least one Tackle in FA, I think. Maybe put him at Gaurd for as long as our veterans are still playing, but with this injury, and Cliffy just not performing like he used to, we need someone to come in and play soon.
gakko  
#25 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2008 7:20:02 AM(UTC)
they took wahle we take this gross
TheEngineer  
#26 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2008 7:44:58 AM(UTC)
I used to always trade for him when I played Madden franchises. Good player.
Packnic  
#27 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2008 12:36:06 PM(UTC)
soft. sideways move.
millertime  
#28 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2008 12:37:24 PM(UTC)
He's gonna get a fat contract. I would love it if the Packers gave him that contract. One area that I don't mind overspending on is LT. We have been spoiled for a while with a good LT. With Clifton's drastic decline this season, it has become increasingly evident how valuable a great LT can be (see Minnesota game).

Let's hope Ted Thompson is willing to break the bank for this guy, because we really need him....

and Haynesworth....

and Peppers...

and Knowshon Moreno....

(man I'm greedy!)
minnypacker  
#29 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2008 1:18:47 PM(UTC)
I'm guessing he gets franchised making hopes a moot point.
gakko  
#30 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2008 1:40:43 PM(UTC)
he was franchised last off season I believe, so they can't do it again.
shield4life  
#31 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2008 1:43:20 PM(UTC)
Yes he was franchised last season
bozz_2006  
#32 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:00:41 PM(UTC)
I'm pretty certain that a player can be tagged two years in a row. but that would get very expensive, seeing has how a franchise player is guaranteed at least 120% of the previous year's salary. since the price of a OL franchise player is $7.455M, he would be guaranteed at least 120% of that in 2009, which is $8.946M. that's a lot of money.
gakko  
#33 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:19:00 PM(UTC)
what I mean is that the Panthers won't have caproom to tag him again.
dfosterf  
#34 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:39:49 PM(UTC)
If we were to end this season in the exact position draft-wise we are in right now (10th), the consensus pick falling to us is Michael Oher. If you don't know who he is, take a moment and look that up. Suffice to say that I seriously doubt that Jared Allen would be looking forward to that match-up.

I am of the strong opinion that all things being equal, you are far better off delving into FA for defensive linemen and defensive backs (especially in man coverage) and looking early in the draft (we don't do this, historically, btw) for offensive linemen. Quicker impact, imo. Justin the bustin Harrell, for example, has been declared by all as a HUGE reach pick at 16. He finished in the draft prognistication boards (consensus) at 31. 31st pick in the draft for an injured player. The "HUGE REACH" was nothing of the kind, at the time. (FYI, Hawk was exactly where we took him---5th) DT's and DE's are MUCH less likely to come out of the draft and play difference-making football early on.

DRAFT O linemen....FA certain defensive position players... My opinion.
bozz_2006  
#35 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2008 3:07:32 PM(UTC)
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looking early in the draft (we don't do this, historically, btw) for offensive linemen.


sure we do
dfosterf  
#36 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2008 3:12:24 PM(UTC)
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looking early in the draft (we don't do this, historically, btw) for offensive linemen.


sure we do



:icon_smile: YOU JUST RUINED MY CHRISTMAS :icon_smile:

Edit-- Ya, F#ck it, get Gross. :thumbleft:
porky88  
#37 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2008 5:28:47 PM(UTC)
I've thrown his name out on a couple of threads. He'll be one of the most sought after offensive lineman. If I were calling the shots I would go after four lineman. Two on offense and the other two on defense. Jordan Gross would be one of them.
Packnic  
#38 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2008 6:48:47 PM(UTC)
im telling you guys... the only thing you will get with Jordan Gross is disappointment. we would be better off just developing what we have now and spending the money elsewhere.
porky88  
#39 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2008 7:09:53 PM(UTC)
" said: Go to Quoted Post
If we were to end this season in the exact position draft-wise we are in right now (10th), the consensus pick falling to us is Michael Oher. If you don't know who he is, take a moment and look that up. Suffice to say that I seriously doubt that Jared Allen would be looking forward to that match-up.


I think Jared Allen would toss Michael Oher around all game long depending on which Michael Oher he's facing.

A lot of people like Oher because he can be really be dominate when he's on, but he shuts it off just as easily and his work ethic isn't that great. Your not going to get Mark Tauscher or Chad Clifton with Oher. For all the critcism of those two, nobody works harder on the team.

Basically Oher is inconsistent due to whether or not he shows up. I recall Winston Justice having a similar problem and it effecting his draft stock a lot.

Oher is going to boom or bust in the NFL. I'm not sure what our coaches could do with him, but I hear good things said about James Campmen and maybe it would be a good match.

I'm very mixed on Oher needless to say.
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