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Offline yooperfan  
#41 Posted : Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:30:45 AM(UTC)
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Rodgers did have a come back in the first Detroit, GB was down by 1 and got a FG with 5:17 left. Could this be why they start saying in the final 5 minutes? I think so.

But since Woodson gets a pick right after and Jackson scores a TD to extend the lead, then Woodson and Collins each get a pick 6 putting the game way out of reach, it no longer matters.

I would like to see Rodgers do better, and I would also like to the McCarthy give him a chance to do better. It seems that in the 2 minute offense that Rodgers does not have full controll. That should be expanded this next year.


I kind of see McCarthy wanting to hold the reins on the kid in his 1st year as the starter but he really has to turn thr kid loose especially in the red zone.
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#42 Posted : Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:49:23 AM(UTC)
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Actually, the lead changed three times in the last 14 minutes; it only changed twice in the last 10 minutes. However, those numbers are deceiving, because in fact those two lead changes occurred within 27 seconds (1:57 and 1:30) of each other, after Rodgers had lead the team on a 10-minute drive. Anyone trying to pin this defeat on Rodgers is seriously grasping at straws.

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Once again ignoring the problem Aaron Rodgers has leading the team to a comeback would be a HUGE mistake.


As I have said elsewhere, we wouldn't even be having this conversation had Favre not happened to come from behind and win his first game back in 1992. Other quarterbacks aren't held to this standard you are mentioning.


I'm not comparing him to Brett Favre and your confusing Aaron Rodgers being bad in the final minutes with it's all Aaron Rodgers fault. I'm certainly not saying that.

Matt Ryan

He lead the Falcons back over the Bears I remember. That's one more comeback than Aaron Rodgers.

Joe Flacco

Lead Baltimore into field goal range to beat the Titans in the playoffs.

No matter how you twist it, Aaron Rodgers was not a good quarterback in the final drive. That's not a terrible thing and it's not the end of the world. It doesn't mean he should be replaced, but it's a telling stat that shows he needs to continue to work hard.

The problem I see with his throws is he's in a bit of a rush with a minute in a half left. That's plenty of time in the NFL. That's a lifetime and once Rodgers realizes that on the field, he'll win a close game. Eventually I believe it will happen and once he wins one, Rodgers will win another.
Offline Rios39  
#43 Posted : Sunday, January 25, 2009 4:21:58 AM(UTC)
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Actually, the lead changed three times in the last 14 minutes; it only changed twice in the last 10 minutes. However, those numbers are deceiving, because in fact those two lead changes occurred within 27 seconds (1:57 and 1:30) of each other, after Rodgers had lead the team on a 10-minute drive. Anyone trying to pin this defeat on Rodgers is seriously grasping at straws.

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Once again ignoring the problem Aaron Rodgers has leading the team to a comeback would be a HUGE mistake.


As I have said elsewhere, we wouldn't even be having this conversation had Favre not happened to come from behind and win his first game back in 1992. Other quarterbacks aren't held to this standard you are mentioning.


I'm not comparing him to Brett Favre and your confusing Aaron Rodgers being bad in the final minutes with it's all Aaron Rodgers fault. I'm certainly not saying that.

Matt Ryan

He lead the Falcons back over the Bears I remember. That's one more comeback than Aaron Rodgers.

Joe Flacco

Lead Baltimore into field goal range to beat the Titans in the playoffs.

No matter how you twist it, Aaron Rodgers was not a good quarterback in the final drive. That's not a terrible thing and it's not the end of the world. It doesn't mean he should be replaced, but it's a telling stat that shows he needs to continue to work hard.

The problem I see with his throws is he's in a bit of a rush with a minute in a half left. That's plenty of time in the NFL. That's a lifetime and once Rodgers realizes that on the field, he'll win a close game. Eventually I believe it will happen and once he wins one, Rodgers will win another.


Rodgersl led the Packers to game winning FG's over the Bears and Vikings, Crosby just didn't get it done.
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Offline JNelson87  
#44 Posted : Sunday, January 25, 2009 4:37:04 AM(UTC)
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Mainly the point of this thread is that Rodgers has led us to a 4th quarter lead or tie. Not really a comeback but he put the team in position to win multiple times and the defense and special teams choked. Rodgers choked too, i wont leave him out.. but in most situations, after he led us to a lead or tie, the D fell apart. They really only gave Rodgers 2 minutes or even less than a minute to work with and what can u really do with that much time? In my opinion, Rodgers did what he was suppoused to do (most of the time) and the D fell apart (most of the time) That's how our year was.

I'm not trying to push the blame on one certain area cause the whole team didnt really play well. Our offense was okay but not as fast and tough as they were last year. Our defense was a joke, thanks to key injuries and poor coaching. Our special teams do what they do every year, nothing. This season was a wake up call. The new coaches should but a fire in these guys for next year cause you know they are gunna have a huge chip on their shoulder. Next year we'll see some Aaron Rodgers 4th quarter comebacks and maybe our D can hold a lead.
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Offline wils0646  
#45 Posted : Sunday, January 25, 2009 5:27:29 AM(UTC)
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And wils before you smart off why don't you check your facts the last game of the season we never trailed and i guess i could give you the 1st lions game if you claim a comeback when you win by 23 lol. But hey your the expert of everything so your right.


Did you read my freakin' post? Jesus man.

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He won both of those games in the 4th quarter. They were either tied or losing in both going into the 4th.
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Offline longtimefan  
#46 Posted : Sunday, January 25, 2009 6:31:14 AM(UTC)
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DH you really need to stop with the

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alot of posters are basically putting this guy in the hall of fame after one good stats year
and the
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Rodgers did no wrong at all this year


IF someone has said it, they are idiots


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Ok long show me where he had a 4th quarter comeback for a win thats what they mean by 4th quarter comebacks sorry. So it is far from a blatant lie.


Nonstop original post said
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For those of you who say Rodgers has no 4th-quarter comebacks


Not comeback WINS...

Your so stuck on the 4th quarter comeback WINS


If that was the argument you would be 100% right..
Offline Nonstopdrivel  
#47 Posted : Sunday, January 25, 2009 6:58:59 AM(UTC)
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Mainly the point of this thread is that Rodgers has led us to a 4th quarter lead or tie. Not really a comeback but he put the team in position to win multiple times and the defense and special teams choked.


Yes. As LT pointed out, I phrased my original post very carefully. Maybe I should have said the phrase "put the team in position to win" -- perhaps that would have clarified my argument a bit.

Completely off-topic, you make the point that our special teams is chronically bad, and this is something I too have noticed over the past 10 years. This makes me think: The Packers this year brought in a dynamite defensive coordinator in Dom Capers. It's too bad that the position of special-teams coach seems to be considered little more than a steppingstone job, because it makes me wonder if we'll be able to recruit someone who brings the same level of ferocity to the special teams as I anticipate Dom Capers bringing to the defense.
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#48 Posted : Sunday, January 25, 2009 12:31:10 PM(UTC)
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I'm just going to read the boards and not make any more posts.


Do not go and do something stupid now Hazer.

You are a good poster. You may be delusional and have the common sense of a retarded field mouse when it comes to Ted Thompson and Teds boy Chico, but you are still a good poster.

You are entitled to your opinion. You never trash talk people personally, I can not remember you making anything personal.

So... I hope you keep showing up. I kind of think of you as the Jehovah Witness of the board. A nice person who keeps on knocking on our door with a message that makes no sense.

Thereis nothing wrong with that. You have conviction.
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Offline DakotaT  
#49 Posted : Sunday, January 25, 2009 12:37:17 PM(UTC)
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I'm just going to read the boards and not make any more posts.


Do not go and do something stupid now Hazer.

You are a good poster. You may be delusional and have the common sense of a retarded field mouse when it comes to Ted Thompson and Teds boy Chico, but you are still a good poster.

You are entitled to your opinion. You never trash talk people personally, I can not remember you making anything personal.

So... I hope you keep showing up. I kind of think of you as the Jehovah Witness of the board. A nice person who keeps on knocking on our door with a message that makes no sense.

Thereis nothing wrong with that. You have conviction.



Hey RP, don't ever give me any compliments. :icon_smile: :icon_smile:
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Offline RaiderPride  
#50 Posted : Sunday, January 25, 2009 3:51:55 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
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I'm just going to read the boards and not make any more posts.


Do not go and do something stupid now Hazer.

You are a good poster. You may be delusional and have the common sense of a retarded field mouse when it comes to Ted Thompson and Teds boy Chico, but you are still a good poster.

You are entitled to your opinion. You never trash talk people personally, I can not remember you making anything personal.

So... I hope you keep showing up. I kind of think of you as the Jehovah Witness of the board. A nice person who keeps on knocking on our door with a message that makes no sense.

Thereis nothing wrong with that. You have conviction.



Hey RP, don't ever give me any compliments. :icon_smile: :icon_smile:


I love reading Hazers posts. I am serious.

He has his view, many do not agree with it. If he stopped posting it would be a shame.

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