earthquake
14 years ago
Collins at OTAs.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/48253377.html 

greg_a_bedard: Collins is not in walk throughs
greg_a_bedard: Collins is sticking with darren perry
greg_a_bedard: Collins just left with the rehab guys. Thanks for coming out
greg_a_bedard: McCarthy said collins was at the most important part of practice, the install early.



I think this is very good news, a good sign that he WILL be in town for training camp. I dont see why he would show up for an OTA if he plans on holding out. Lets hope i'm right. =)

*fixed my title error.. touched none of the post. - Pack93z
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Pack93z
14 years ago
This is a very good sign for the Packers indeed..

*Note EarthQuake.. split it because felt it was worthy enough for its own thread.. and more than likely someone would have started it..


Nick Collins Shows Up For Packers Practice
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on June 17, 2009, 1:27 p.m.

Packers safety Nick Collins reportedly wants a new contract, but that didnt stop him from attending Green Bays final open offseason practice Wednesday.

According to Greg Bedard of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, Collins was at the session but quickly left with other players who were rehabbing injuries.

The one-time Pro Bowlers attendance is noteworthy because hes entering the final year of his rookie deal, and his previous attendance this Spring was spotty. (A serious family matter was cited previously, but his agent said that Collins would have been absent even if there had not been family problems.)

Packers coach Mike McCarthy calls Collins the main communicator in Green Bays new 3-4 defense, so his knowledge of the scheme will be key.

Collins shares an agent with teammate Ryan Grant, who held out out of training camp last season before a slow start in September. It now appears Collins wont be taking the same route.

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"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Rockmolder
14 years ago
I still don't like holding out. You signed a contract, go with it untill its up and then sign a new one when the previous one is up. It makes sense to me, but apparently it's backwards thinking in NFL land.

Anyway, this is good news, indeed. I hope that he'll turn into a smart ballhawking player who reads defenses and makes the clutch plays. Ed Reed, really. It would be great if he could grow into something like that.
TengoJuego
14 years ago

I still don't like holding out. You signed a contract, go with it untill its up and then sign a new one when the previous one is up. It makes sense to me, but apparently it's backwards thinking in NFL land.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Its the business aspect of it. I'm sure a lot of guys have their agents tell/advise them to do this to get the ball rolling on a new deal.

I personally would never hold out. I don't like the idea of it at all.
go.pack.go.
14 years ago
Easy to say that Rock, you're putting him in some good company haha. But I hope so as well.

By the way, this is definitely good.
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RaiderPride
14 years ago



*Note EarthQuake.. split it because felt it was worthy enough for its own thread.. and more than likely someone would have started it..

"pack93z" wrote:



Great Call "Z" you should be making executive decisions more often. :icon_smile:

You always have a "Finger On The Pulse" of this forum "Z". Good for you.

YES... This is a great thing. I can see the whole"Change Challenge" jelling and working. The key is getting everyone on board. A commitment like this is just part of the jelling... I can only hope Kampy is watching, reading, and evaluating his own situation based on the commitment from players like Collins.
""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."
dfosterf
14 years ago
I don't see what is so great about it. My cynical side says he was here because he has to be. Yes, I know this attendance was an OTA, as in voluntary, but I also know he "maxed out" in non-attendance if he has designs on playing for us as a starting safety, imo.

He isn't going to miss mini-camp, either, unless he is dumber than I think. Not because of the fines, but because of the 25% rule on signing bonuses...He would be subjecting himself to having to pay that back, and he probably already spent it a long time ago.

In another thread, I think it was Dakota that said he is looking forward to seeing Smith alongside Collins this coming year.

I say...

hmmm.....

I've already filled out a shipping label for Nick. I wonder what the Steelers have that we can use in trade.

Seriously. He didn't deserve the pro-bowl, imo...

Business is business, and he is behind the curve, and further, has probably devalued himself. An admittedly cynical prediction, but we will talk in 2010 when everyone remembers whatever shenanigans we don't yet know about as regards this player. I hope to be wrong, of course.

Sorry, just being honest in my take on the whole deal.
DakotaT
14 years ago
Actually I said, I've penciled in Smith next to Collins.

I think if Collins would actually catch all of the balls he has his hands on, we would have an all pro. I think Nick lacks a little upstairs with disecting plays and when his superb athleticism becomes average, he may become pedestrian. Whereas a guy like Eugene Robinson could play longer because of his intelligence, except for that defining moment before super bowl 33. I give him the benefit of the doubt, because he needed stress release.

I say give him a four year deal with about 5th to 8th best average salary for his position. In no way is he in Ed Reed or Troy Palomolu pay range.
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