Pack93z
14 years ago
Where does one get this "official" drop stat?

I am pretty damn sure that that number isn't as low as five (from memory).. but there has been articles written early this season on the same issue.. drops...

I am not over-reacting at all.. I think it is a concern and deserves more than "It part of the game" type fodder.

You would swear that I called him over rated or something.. pointing out areas of concern or weakness isn't a bad thing.. but some sure can't handle it to any degree.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

IMO, he better be sweating the drops.. it isn't a one game thing this season.. him seeming to just accept it as part of the game is disappointing.

Overall, comments like this, inconsistencies of certain units and penalties really makes a person ponder the discipline upon this team.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:




The journalism in that article is pretty poor.

Looking at Jennings' interview on Packers.com, when he says he "isn't concerned about it," he is referring strictly to losing the ball in the lights. He says that is a part of football, and it happens some times. He mentions a catch he made against the Bears in the season opener, where he lost it in the lights, but it eventually worked out where he kept his vision on towards a particular point, and then saw the ball as it came out of the lights.

Jennings, except for like a 5 second response about the drop on the slant - where it should be noted he says it was all on him, and that such drops are basically inexcusable - is strictly talking about the plays where the ball was lost in the lights, and he only saw them last second when they were in front of his eyes.

Jennings has said before that coaches are especially tough on WRs, especially WRs coach Jimmy Robinson, and how he's gotten in trouble with Robinson for things like turning a short slant into a TD, but not securing the ball in both hands as he crossed the goal line.


Again, the article reflects shockingly poor journalism.

"pack93z" wrote:



Thank you for mentioning this. As you know, I've hated on journalists for sometime as I watch the videos and see a portion of the material they procure their articles from.

I must say, shockingly? C'mon now, lol.


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I counted three jobs against the Ravens by Jennings alone. I know he's dropped more than five. Maybe five that were dead center between the numbers.
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14 years ago

Where does one get this "official" drop stat?

I am pretty damn sure that that number isn't as low as five (from memory).. but there has been articles written early this season on the same issue.. drops...

I am not over-reacting at all.. I think it is a concern and deserves more than "It part of the game" type fodder.

You would swear that I called him over rated or something.. pointing out areas of concern or weakness isn't a bad thing.. but some sure can't handle it to any degree.

"pack93z" wrote:



You're right. I apologize for my opinion on the matter.

What we should do is write the team. Hopefully they listen and do some pass catching drills in practice. Shake things up. :icon_smile:
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Numbers crunch 
By JASON WILDE


GREEN BAY Greg Jennings swears hes not pressing, swears he doesnt know his statistics and swears he isnt unhappy with his role in the Green Bay Packers offense.



Now, if the Packers werent winning, well, then maybe the fourth-year wide receiver would be taking a different tack. But with an 8-4 record and a four-game winning streak entering Sundays game at Chicago, Jennings said Wednesday that winning cures whatever disappointment he might feel personally about his season.



Im telling you, when were playing the way were playing, when were winning, youre going to get nothing but smiles, Jennings said after practice Wednesday. Now, if it were reversed, then maybe. But Im not trying to mess with anything. Were good, where were at. Were all helping one another, were all making each other better, were all complementing each other right now. Theres no reason to mess with anything.



Still, Jennings numbers are down. Last year, he caught 80 passes for 1,292 yards and nine touchdowns; he enters the 13th game of the year with just 53 receptions for 799 yards and three touchdowns, putting him on pace for 70 catches for 1,065 yards and four TDs.



I honestly dont even know my numbers right now. I dont, said Jennings, who signed a three-year, $27 million contract extension in the offseason and started the year by catching the game-winning 50-yard touchdown pass against Chicago in the regular-season opener. I dont really get caught up in numbers. When you start focusing on numbers, you start worrying about this and worrying about that. So I dont know how many catches I have, I dont know how many yards. I know my touchdowns.



In Monday nights victory over Baltimore, Jennings dropped two passes, but he said the explanations were simple: On the slant that he dropped, he simply took his eye off the ball; on the puma route on the sideline, he lost the ball in the lights.



Im not concerned about that, not at all, said Jennings, who has now dropped five passes on the season, tying him with Donald Driver for the team lead. Im nowhere close to being concerned it. Not sounding cocky about it, but drops are a part of the game. But what happened to me on (Monday), the slant, totally (my fault), totally like 100 percent. That is just uncalled for. (On the other drop), I cant control the lights.



Asked if he thought Jennings was pressing against the Ravens, causing the drops, coach Mike McCarthy said he didnt think so then proceeded to defend his receiver.



Greg is an outstanding football player. I'm excited he's on our team. He's going to be on our team for a long time, McCarthy said. I think (his decreased productivity) is a product of our offense. ... It's kind of tough to have numbers for everybody across the board. You'd like to. But Greg's a team player and I think he does a great job for us. Maybe he would have had more production Monday night, but I didn't have a sense he was pressing in the game.



On Oct. 12, Jennings politely but publicly complained about his role in the offense, saying he wanted the doggone ball more.



The offense was kind of struggling. So that was a different situation, Jennings said Wednesday. Dont get me wrong, every receiver wants to see more balls. That is just every receiver. But were a close knit group, and were very unselfish. Youre never going to see a guy just complaining about getting balls or not getting balls. So its not about that. Thats when it becomes a selfish game, and were not about being selfish guys at all.



That said, Jennings did suggest that if McCarthy and offensive coordinator Joe Philbin lined him up in the slot more often, instead of being split out wide, his production would go up.



Being in the slot is stealing. I tell Drive that all the time. Youre a thief if youre in the slot. Because you have so much space to work with, its ridiculous, Jennings said. Thats the way it is. We all play all the positions, we can all play any position out there on the field, and we switch from time to time just to give the defense a different look. And wherever that ball goes, we just try to make plays.



Jennings is often lined up on the same side as the slot receiver in a three-receiver set, leaving James Jones alone on the opposite side of the field.



I talk (about) this with James all the time. We could go to James every single play. Because he gets the one-on-one (coverage), Jennings said. He could get the ball every (play) I mean literally, this is not me exaggerating. When him and Jordy (Nelson) are by themselves on that boundary I mean, its almost like that is a mismatch every time. But (quarterback Aaron Rodgers) spreads the ball around, so Im not complaining.



So if lining up in the slot is stealing and the single receiver on the opposite of Jennings and the slot receiver could get the ball on every play, why isnt Jennings lining up in those spots more often?



Well, its all about formations and personnel, he said. A lot of times this year, defenses have been rolling (coverage) to me. So we try to kind of put me in a position where either theyre doing something we want them to do or we think theyre going to do something so I can either get open or kind of pull the coverage. So its a give-and-take. Thats what the game is all about.


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Pack93z
14 years ago



What we should do is write the team. Hopefully they listen and do some pass catching drills in practice. Shake things up. :icon_smile:

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



LOL.. that is as silly as Jennings claiming it is no big deal. ;)

Simply put.. I am a slight bit disappointed in his under reaction.. nothing more.

I am thinking maybe I need to buy a thick pair of green and gold shades and a muzzle. 😉
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14 years ago
I do hope to see the last of the dropsies from Jennings and everyone else, for that matter. It killed two drives in the Baltimore game, which would have hurt much worse if the game had turned out to be closer. That's why I focused on the drops.
I do believe Jennings wanted the ball more after the drops. You could see he wanted redemption, however cool he played it in this interview. Take the PI call on the deep pass down the right sideline. I think his reaction wasn't because of the flag but because he wanted that ball and he wanted the TD that would have resulted in a catch. That's why I'm not worried. He wants to excel. He won't ignore these drops, regardless of what he said to this reporter.
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mi_keys
14 years ago
I'm not worried about him either. Or at least no more so than any of the other receivers this year. First couple of weeks everyone had problems with drops. It had gone away until last Monday when Jennings had 2, Driver had two that I can recall, Lee had 1 that I remember, and there were probably a couple more. Everyone was having issues. As all_about_da_pack pointed out, Jennings only brushed off the one he lost in the light and said the drop on the slant was inexcusable. I doubt it will be a recurring problem.
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