Trippster
14 years ago


2008
Ryan (SEA) 8th distance net 7
Frost (GNB 25th Distance Net 24th

2009
Ryan (SEA) 4th Distance Net 10th
Kapinos GNB) 17th Distance Net LAST! (31st)


Wanna go down this road with Crosby too?

"IronMan" wrote:



FG Percentage:

2007: 24th
2008: 26th
2009: 31st

Can it get any worse?

I'm not sure why you keep bringing up Frost. We HAD a good punter with Jon Ryan. Crosby is NOT a good kicker.

"Trippster" wrote:



I brought up Frost because AA rod is cool referred to him.

My point being that you dont make change unless you KNOW you can replace with someone better. There is not anyone out there who IS better.
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go.pack.go.
14 years ago
I have to agree with Trippster on this.
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Cheesey
14 years ago
True Trippster.
I'm STILL upset we got rid of Ryan.
I KNOW they were trying to upgrade, but what a fiasco that turned out to be.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

it isn't easy kicking field goals on Heinz Field

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Jeff Reed is 15-16 at Heinz Field this year. 93.8 percent.

Keep defending Crosby. I will keep proving you wrong. I have a lot of time on my hands now too. Christmas break. LOL

"go.pack.go." wrote:



I'm surely not going to try to defend Crosby, there's no defense for him, especially the last few or five games.

By saying Reed is 15 of 16 doesn't mean that it's easy to kick at Heinz field. It means he's a good kicker, which is shown by his career field goal kicking percentage that exceeds 80% with more than 200 field goals attempted.

Now, trying to say kicking at Heinz field is a reason for Crosby to have missed. What about the calm climate at Lambeau, where he has home field advantage and missed a 43 yarder? or how about the kicks he's missed in a DOME!

Fact is, Crosby doesn't care where, how long or short it is, he'll pull it right.
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go.pack.go.
14 years ago
Yes, there's no excuse for his misses.

I think that what happens is he feels the pressure coming from the left side (usually there is someone diving in from that side) and he doesn't follow through correctly because he doesn't want to get hit while doing it. Maybe if the line would block better then he would have a better percentage. I have been thinking about that for a few weeks now.

Who knows, I could be wrong. Maybe he just needs to do nothing but practice from the right hash mark.
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14 years ago
Well, even though Trippster and I disagree on Mason Crosby, we both agree that Trippster makes some kick ass jumbalaya!
musccy
14 years ago
trip and a few others have touched on this, but it's not really worth discussing FA at this point in the year. If they're sitting on FA (carney) in December there's probably a reason for that. I want to see improvements too, but sadly I feel we're stuck with what we've got now, and bringing in another kicker merely puts more pressure on someone that's already a bit of a mental midget.
K_Buz
14 years ago
I couldn't disagree more with most of the posts I've read. Crosby IS going to cost us a game...shit...he already did.

I don't care if the bring in who doesn't have the leg for a 45 yder. If they can kick them thru from 45 and under, that's fine with me.

We could go deep into the playoffs, but we NEED a kicker. Crosby is NOT cutting it. Its time to try something new.
Yerko
14 years ago
The only possible reason to defend Crosby at the moment is because the free agents in the kicking pool absolutely suck...more than Crosby.

The dude needs to make his kicks, period. Asking a kicker in the NFL to make a field goal in the 30-39 yard range is not a lot to ask for.

Since there is no other option, Crosby better get his crap together quickly before he costs us a playoff game.
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dfosterf
14 years ago
Vandermause-Don't give up on Crosby 

Mike Vandermause column: Green Bay Packers shouldn't give up on K Mason Crosby
By Mike Vandermause December 22, 2009

He couldnt buy a successful field goal , with cash or credit. His ranking plummeted to the depths among NFL kickers. His accuracy hit an all-time low.

The year was 2001, and the kicker was Ryan Longwell , the Green Bay Packers all-time career leader in field-goal accuracy and scoring.

How soon we forget that Longwell, who turned out to be the greatest field-goal kicker in Packers history, endured a terrible season in which he made just 64.5 percent of his field-goal attempts.

The growing mob that is ready to run current Packers kicker Mason Crosby out of town on a rail needs to remember that and cut him some slack.

Crosby has missed a field goal in each of the Packers last four games, including a first-half 34-yarder at Pittsburgh Sunday that arguably was the difference in the Steelers 37-36 victory.

Crosby has converted just 72.7 percent of his field goals (24 of 33) and ranks a lowly 31st among NFL kickers this season. Thats not good enough, and Crosby will be the first to admit it.

But now isnt the time for the Packers to hang their struggling kicker out to dry. To his credit, coach Mike McCarthy stood firmly behind Crosby on Monday and said he has zero interest in bringing another kicker to town.
Its not likely that anyone available this late in the season would perform any better than Crosby.

Theres also the bigger picture to consider. Crosby has been serviceable during his college career at Colorado (75.0 percent) and first two seasons with the Packers (79.5 percent), and his strong leg indicates he has long-term potential.

Longwell made just 20 of 31 field goals eight years ago and ranked 33rd among NFL kickers, but bounced back by converting 85.2 percent of his kicks over the next three seasons. His 81.6 percent career mark ranks No. 1 in Packers history.

No one can predict how Crosby will respond to his slump, but history says he deserves every opportunity to break out of it.

The Packers coaching staff is taking the proper approach with Crosby by offering public support. In private, they would be wise to tell Crosby that hes their kicker regardless of what happens the rest of this season or how loud his critics complain.

Crosby shouldnt have to worry about his job status every time he tries a field goal.

Special teams coach Shawn Slocum said: What you need to do is have a mindset of Boy, I cant wait to make this kick as opposed to going out there saying, Man, I cant miss this one."

Crosby needs to be held accountable, and the Packers should sign another kicker during the offseason to provide some healthy competition.

Crosby was outstanding during a training camp battle with Dave Rayner in 2007. Maybe he needs that kind of competitive edge to stay sharp.

Crosby still ranks third all-time among Packers kickers in field-goal accuracy at 77.4 percent, behind Longwell and Jan Stenerud (80.8 percent) and just ahead of Chris Jacke (77.2 percent).

Even this season, for all the scrutiny Crosby has received, his accuracy is close to Longwells 74.1 percent during his final season with the Packers in 2005. Since leaving Green Bay, Longwell has converted 86.0 percent of his kicks.

Neil Rackers of the Arizona Cardinals has been the most accurate kicker in the NFL over the past two seasons (41 of 45, 91.1 percent) and in 2005 converted 40 of 42 field goals (95.2 percent). But in 2001, the same year Longwell struggled, Rackers made just 17 of 28 kicks (60.7 percent), and during a two-year span in 2006 and 2007 made just 73.1 percent of his field goals.

Rackers and Longwell provide compelling examples why it would be a mistake to give up on Crosby after one bad month, or even one subpar season.




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