Bears Going After Peppers.... And Kampman· Page 3

Rockmolder
Honored Member Topic Starter

14 years ago

The only way Kampman stays a Packer is if 4-3 teams are scared off by the injury.

Otherwise, I think we Packer fans are engaging in wishful thinking.

Because I find it hard to imagine Ted Thompson paying 4-3 DE money to a 3-4 linebacker with questions.

"Wade" wrote:

You underestimate the man Aaron Kampman my friend.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

Not at all. I think Kampman is going to get a big offer from someone other than GB. And I don't think Ted Thompson is going to be in the ballpark.

Now I might be underestimating what Ted is willing to pay because I think *he's* going to look at Kampman as having questions.

I think a lot of Packer fans are hoping that the "injury question" will keep Kampman's numbers down far enough for the Packers to be able to keep him. But I think they're dreaming. Kampman's going to get someone willing to pay top 4-3 DE bucks on a multiyear deal.

If the Packers only offer a one year deal, he'll be gone.
If the Packers only offer an incentives-laden deal, he'll be gone.
If the Packers expect any significant "home team discount," he'll be gone.
If the Packers don't offer him a deal that pays him top 4-3 DE bucks, he'll be gone.

Kampman's too smart to do otherwise.

"Wade" wrote:

Let's hope so.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

14 years ago

#22

From my observations .... I think some of us are overestimating the importance of the dollar to Kampman as opposed to the team and location he's playing in.

Green Bay is similar to his home town.
Packers are the richest team history wise.
He's a hard working man.

I could see the Packers signing him to a two year deal with the second year having one of those optional years or something like that. I think he'll get a nice base salary with some incentives.

People seem to forget that he had nearly 30 QB pressures before his injury and the next closest in line I believe had 9 or 11. He may not have had the sack totals, but he was a solid presence.

In my opinion ... sign his ass, unleash him on the QB every down except short yardage situations. Obviously, you can't be that consistent, but you get my point.

doddpower
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#23

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

I agree. Like I said, if money wasn't a HUGE issue, AND the coaches would utilize him properly, he could really be an asset for our team. Unfortunately, the money probably will be an issue and he'll sack Aaron Rodger's at least once next year.

=(

zombieslayer
Registered

14 years ago

#24

My big fear is he'd end up on the Vikings. Imagine facing that front four twice a year (actually, more like 3 times a year). We already have problems with it.

Besides, if I remember correctly, haven't they already courted him in the past?

My man Donald Driver

(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷

dfosterf
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#25

It is most likely that we are talking about a very serious difference in money here, as in several million per year.

I would characterize a decision on his part to stay based on loyalty to the Pack in the "absolutely incredible" department.

It is far more on Kampy than the Pack. He is an acceptable OLB for us, with some pluses, but some minuses also...

He is a proven impact 4-3 DE, and the wage scale for those is a serious plane above 3-4 OLB's at his level of play at the position.

He is now effectively a free agent, just waiting for March 5th. We are in competition with all of those teams in need of 4-3 DE's, and if anyone running a 3-4 thinks as highly of him as we (apparently) do, we are in competition with those teams also.

bozz_2006
Registered

14 years ago

#26

how highly do "we" really think of him?

dfosterf
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#27

how highly do "we" really think of him?

"bozz_2006" wrote:

He was not franchised at either level, so you have a large part of the answer right there.

Pack93z
Select Member

14 years ago

#28

"dfosterf" wrote:

+1 Expanded much further than I took it in another thread...

The money between "us" and "them" in this scenario is going to far outweigh the justification of paying it.

We rolled the dice by not trading him at the deadline last season.. then unfortunately he suffered an injury.. which solidified the options on the Packers part.. let him test the free agent waters.

I love the player, person, and teammate Aaron has been for the Packers... and if it wasn't more of a business that it is in reality.. I would love to keep him a Packer for life. But that isn't reality.. and we crossed a bridge of any leverage at the trade deadline last season.

And now.. we are doing the right thing by Kampman IMO.. letting him set his value on the open market.. and if that market is softer than I or we expect.. then maybe we have a shot at him returning next season.

Slim to none... and none is getting ready to board on the next plane out.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

PackerTraxx
Senior Member

14 years ago

#29

I love Kampmann. But I believe he is as good as gone. Hope I am wrong. JMHO

Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?

dfosterf
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#30

Pack93z
+1 right back at you, and I should have +1'd you the first time you reminded everyone about the gamble we took in not looking to trade him last year.

I understood the gamble.

If there was ever a scenario for an amicable parting of the ways, this is it.

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

buckeyepackfan (13h) : Lions extend Penei Soul 4yrs - 112mil

buckeyepackfan (13h) : Lions extend St. Brown 4 years 120mil and

Mucky Tundra (13h) : Now look, trading up to 13 to take a TE might not seem like a good idea later but it will be later!

dfosterf (15h) : (Your trade up mock post)

dfosterf (16h) : Mucky- The only thing fun to watch would be me flipping the f out if Gute goes up to 13 and grabs Brock Bowers, lol

beast (19h) : DT Byron Murphy II, Texas... whom some believe is the next Aaron Donald (or the closest thing to Donald)

Zero2Cool (20h) : What? And who?

Mucky Tundra (24-Apr) : *sad Mucky noises*

Mucky Tundra (24-Apr) : @JoeJHoyt Murphy said he’s been told he won’t slide past pick No. 16.

wpr (23-Apr) : Just about time to watch Sonny Weaver stick it to the seahags. I never get tired of it.

Martha Careful (23-Apr) : *game plan

Martha Careful (23-Apr) : IMHO, not even close. He is not a guy you game play around.

Mucky Tundra (23-Apr) : is Aiyuk worth a 1st rounder?

Zero2Cool (23-Apr) : 49ers are seeking a 1st round pick in exchange for WR Brandon Aiyuk

Mucky Tundra (22-Apr) : Based on Gutes comments, now I don't feel as silly having 13 picks in my mock the other day

Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : Zach Wilson to Broncos.

Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : Gutekunst says he'd love to have 13 or 14 picks. He's trading back huh lol

beast (22-Apr) : Someday we'll have a draft betting scandal

beast (21-Apr) : Sometimes looking extremely amazing, sometimes looking extremely lost

beast (21-Apr) : I haven't looked into the QBs, but some have suggested Maye has some of the most extremely inconsistent tape they've seen

beast (21-Apr) : Well it also sounds like Patriots are listening to trade offers, not that seriously considering any, but listening means they aren't locked

Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : Maye needs to be AFC

Mucky Tundra (21-Apr) : Not liking the idea of the Vikings getting Maye

Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : Vikings HC joked that he may or may not have sent flowers to Bob Kraft. That's where rumor came from.

beast (21-Apr) : Can't tell if this is real or BS, but some rumors about a possible Patriots/Vikings trade for #3 overall

dfosterf (21-Apr) : One playbook to my knowledge. I was shooting for facetious.

beast (20-Apr) : I'm not sure they have different playbooks for different OL positions, and Dillard run blocking is supposedly worse than his pass blocking..

dfosterf (19-Apr) : The only problem with that is he isn't a guard either.

dfosterf (19-Apr) : Put him at right guard. That is where he will be coached. That is where he will compete. He is not even allowed to look at the LT playbook.

dfosterf (18-Apr) : Kidding aside, I hope the best for him.

dfosterf (18-Apr) : Went to a Titans board. One comment there. Not very long. I quote: "LOL" They don't sound overly upset about our aquisition.

beast (18-Apr) : OT Dillard has been absolutely horrible... like OG Newman levels

dfosterf (18-Apr) : Suit him up and have him stand in front of the big board as a draft day cautionary tale.

Zero2Cool (18-Apr) : Packers sign T Andre Dillard.

Mucky Tundra (18-Apr) : Adds most of the information this time of year comes from agents.

Mucky Tundra (18-Apr) : @RealAlexBarth Bill Belichick says accurate draft information doesn't leak from teams until about 12 hours before the draft. Adds most of th

Mucky Tundra (18-Apr) : I am very happy that for moment, Jordan Love seems like a normal human being

Zero2Cool (17-Apr) : Belichick * whatever

Zero2Cool (17-Apr) : "There's a lot of depth at Offensive Tackle and Wide Receiver." Bill Bellichick

Zero2Cool (17-Apr) : Thanks! I can't believe it's over haha

Martha Careful (16-Apr) : Congratulations

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Boom. Student Loan. $0.00. Only took about 20 years.

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : Packers DT Kenny Clark: New defensive coordinator Jeff Hafley will 'allow us to be way more disruptive'

Zero2Cool (12-Apr) : Saints have agreed to terms on a contract with former Packers wide receiver Equanimeous St. Brown.

beast (12-Apr) : No, but of it's for legislation, then half of the country will find it evil, not good, whatever it says....

Mucky Tundra (12-Apr) : Draft is still 2 weeks away. UGH

dhazer (11-Apr) : Does anyone know of a good AI generator to create letters of Support for legislation?

Zero2Cool (11-Apr) : Gordon "Red" Batty retires as equipment manager

Zero2Cool (10-Apr) : Sounds like that's pretty certain now.

Zero2Cool (10-Apr) : Packers "at" Eagles in Brazil. Week One

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2023 Packers Schedule

Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM

Bears

38 - 20

Sunday, Sep 17 @ 12:00 PM

Falcons

24 - 25

Sunday, Sep 24 @ 12:00 PM

SAINTS

18 - 17

Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:15 PM

LIONS

20 - 34

Monday, Oct 9 @ 7:15 PM

Raiders

13 - 17

Sunday, Oct 22 @ 3:25 PM

Broncos

17 - 19

Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

10 - 24

Sunday, Nov 5 @ 12:00 PM

RAMS

20 - 3

Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM

Steelers

19 - 23

Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM

CHARGERS

23 - 20

Thursday, Nov 23 @ 11:30 AM

Lions

29 - 22

Sunday, Dec 3 @ 7:20 PM

CHIEFS

27 - 19

Monday, Dec 11 @ 7:15 PM

Giants

22 - 24

Sunday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM

BUCCANEERS

20 - 34

Sunday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM

Panthers

33 - 30

Sunday, Dec 31 @ 7:20 PM

Vikings

33 - 10

Sunday, Jan 7 @ 3:25 PM

BEARS

17 - 9

Sunday, Jan 14 @ 3:30 PM

Cowboys

48 - 32

Saturday, Jan 20 @ 7:15 PM

49ers

21 - 24