doddpower
14 years ago
I definitely agree that he's not worth 7 million a year but c'mon. Are we really going to depend on a rookie to start at left tackle??? That truly sounds like a terrible plan to me unless we have every intention of trading up.

I hope we at least sign some kind of LT that can half-way play because the whole having no LT thing at the moment is pretty nerve wrecking.

PS: I have a question. I know foster doesn't think this is a good idea but considering our circumstances hear me out. All we heard about for years was how Colledge was our Left Tackle of the future. Yes, he was horrible when thrown to the dogs after no preparation last season. However, does anyone think he might be a stop gap LT option with a FULL off-season to prepare? I still think he has more potential at tackle then he does guard, even if that's not saying much.

Just something I've been thinking about. I mean, we need SOME kind of option.
bozz_2006
14 years ago
Gaither maybe. I imagine what would be more probably is re-signing Tausch to play RT and sticking Lang at LT this season. And look hard for an LT of the future. I really like Thompson and McCarthy, but playing musical chairs for our o-linemen is tough for me to handle.
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dhazer
14 years ago
Packers | Offered Clifton nearly $5 million a year
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Jason Cole, of Yahoo! Sports, reports the Green Bay Packers have offered free-agent OT Chad Clifton (Packers) approximately $5 million a year. Clifton is hoping for somewhere closer to $7 million per season with at least $20 million in the first three years of any deal.

http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz0hJQ2Rn4j 
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Pack93z
14 years ago

Packers | Offered Clifton nearly $5 million a year
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Jason Cole, of Yahoo! Sports, reports the Green Bay Packers have offered free-agent OT Chad Clifton (Packers) approximately $5 million a year. Clifton is hoping for somewhere closer to $7 million per season with at least $20 million in the first three years of any deal.

http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz0hJQ2Rn4j 

"dhazer" wrote:



At that kind of money for that duration.. I stand behind Thompson.. let Clifton walk if someone is willing to write that check.
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doddpower
14 years ago

Packers | Offered Clifton nearly $5 million a year
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Jason Cole, of Yahoo! Sports, reports the Green Bay Packers have offered free-agent OT Chad Clifton (Packers) approximately $5 million a year. Clifton is hoping for somewhere closer to $7 million per season with at least $20 million in the first three years of any deal.

http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz0hJQ2Rn4j 

"pack93z" wrote:



At that kind of money for that duration.. I stand behind Thompson.. let Clifton walk if someone is willing to write that check.

"dhazer" wrote:



I agree. It's obvious that his main focus at this point is getting his last payday. I would have imagined $5 million a year would have been enough to keep him in Green Bay. That's lame.


Hopefully he doesn't get what he wishes for. $5 million is more then enough for his services.
Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
So they don't want him all that badly. Excellent. I don't want to see him in green and gold this year -- I didn't want to see him in green and gold last year. Unlike a lot of people on this board, I'm a big proponent of the "hire-slow-fire-fast" philosophy. I'd far rather take the risk of getting one less year of serviceable performance out of him than one extra year of poor performance. People like to point out that he's anchored the line for x of the Packers' last y games. That's irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. The fact is that his rate of missed time is accelerating and he's become less than reliable. The recent trends aren't good, and that's what we need to be concerned with. How many times must he hobble off the field, forcing our coaches to play yet another dangerous round of musical chairs, before fans realize it's time to move on?
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doddpower
14 years ago

So they don't want him all that badly. Excellent. I don't want to see him in green and gold this year -- I didn't want to see him in green and gold last year. Unlike a lot of people on this board, I'm a big proponent of the "hire-slow-fire-fast" philosophy. I'd far rather take the risk of getting one less year of serviceable performance out of him than one extra year of poor performance. People like to point out that he's anchored the line for x of the Packers; last y games. That's irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. The fact is that his rate of missed time is accelerating and he's become less than reliable. The recent trends aren't good, and that's what we need to be concerned with. How many times must he hobble off the field, forcing our coaches to play yet another dangerous round of musical chairs, before fans realize it's time to move on?

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



I don't think anyone here thinks that's it's not time to move on and find a long term answer. However, many of us are just wondering what the short / long term answer may be without Clifton around. I imagine some kind of move will be made but if Chad leaves, we hardly have a left tackle. It's probably better to have a serviceable left tackle then none at all. Once again, the idea of expecting a rookie to come in an instantly start scares me.

I'm sure some moves will be made soon to sure up the position, but it's still a bit intimidating at the moment.
Pack93z
14 years ago
Clifton signing with the Skins will help us.. it will allow Washington to not focus on a tackle in the draft.. allowing another option to slide in the draft...

Cliffy wants his retirement check to be signed today.. that is fine.
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Rockmolder
14 years ago

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20100304/PKR01/100304145/1058/Big-push-to-hold-onto-LT-Chad-Clifton

I understand the need for a LT, but just because Clifton is the best FA LT doesn't mean Green Bay should go and WAY overspend to keep him, especially with his injury history. Take that money and target a younger RFA instead.

"RaiderPride" wrote:



OK Clifton started what? 12 games last year.

Injury History? Last time I looked he started 138 out of 143 games for the Packers over a ten year career. Ten Years of commitment to the Green and Gold has to count for something.

How does a team over pay for that type of long term commitment. I would consider it a bonus, and have the confidence that he can get the job done and pay him for it.

If the Packers were willing to give 20 Million Dollars for a self centered soon to be traitor for a long term marketing deal when he retired for the second time... They can surley have confidence in a solid vet and pay Clifton so he can retire a Packer with a well earned ring.

I think Clifton's injuries are not going to continue on in 2010

"RainX" wrote:



I think that they will.

It's these last few years that matter. Not his entire career. He's been pretty durable in his career, but after getting hit by Sapp, not even knowing if he could walk again, his legs and knees have been failing him.

I don't think that we're going to get a whole lot more than 10 games a season out of him. Maybe he'll line up in 13 games, but he'll miss enough time outside of those.

Now I'd love to have him back, but I'm not too dissapointed if he isn't. He's one of our best O-linemen on the roster, but he's not worth the $7 million. Next to that, this'll force our FO to get a replacement. They can't go with a 6th rounder now. They'll have to find someone who can protect Rodgers.

Maybe this is a positive in the long run.
dfosterf
14 years ago
Ted is going to have to go hat in hand if he wants Balt's LT now.

He will be waiting at the secretary's desk, she will try and wipe the smug smirk off her face, there will be raucous laughter coming from the GM's office as soon as she announces that Mr. Thompson from the Green Bay Packers is there....

He'll walk in, the room will be packed (for entertainment value)

"So, Ted, I hear you are in the market for a little protection for your franchise quarterback."

Ted---

"Err, ya, we were thinking that we might be interested in that Jared Gaither guy you got just lying around."


More raucous laughter.
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