bozz_2006
14 years ago
Porky doesn't need sleep!
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warhawk
14 years ago
It would not hurt my feelings to see the Packers pick up additional defensive players early.

In the losses we had last year the offense scored plenty of points to win those games. It didn't matter if it was the Vikings, Steelers, or, whoever, we scored points. We lack quality depth along the line and the pass rush was inconsistant at times. Overall, considering this was the first year in the 3-4 it was a good move but there are still areas that need to be shored up.

If we are going to go deep into the playoffs the defense has to be good enough to disrupt a good QB because by then they will be seeing great QB's every week. Trying to outscore our opponent all the way to the SB is not going to cut it.

The defensive stats were good because we absolutely shut down teams when we did get to the QB, or, the opposing QB wasn't very good. When that wasn't the case we ended up in shoot outs and came out on the short end.

We need another quality DL for a solid rotation, better and more consistant pressure from the ROLB, and better play out of the other Safety position and we could be a really good defense against anybody.

It's the "against anybody" part that's key.
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ILikeThePackers39
14 years ago

The thing about Mays that intrigues me is he's not the big play safety you would like to get in the first-round, but he's smart and reacts to the play well. I think that's what the Packers need next to Nick Collins. They don't need a guy with a ton of range or a ball-hawk. That's what Collins already is. Not say it can't work with those two types of players, but it's not something you must have in order to be a competitive defensive football team.

If Mays falls to the second-round and I think he probably will, trading up to get him is something that would be pretty tempting I think for the Packers. Of course this is a deep draft so moving down and stockpiling picks is always in play as well with this regime.

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I see a couple things in Mays that I really like. All due respect to fosterf, I don't much care if a guy sounds smart - I've known far too many folks who sounded dumber than rocks but were more than intelligent enough to do their jobs well. Wonderlic scores are okay, but again there are very successful players who scored for crap on that test (Marino, for one).

Pros: -Great physical ability - like Collins, he can make up for a lapse in technique with those skills. -Tough player, tough mindset - the biggest (in my mind) thing Bigby brings to the table, and this guy's got it - with kids like Harvin cruising the middle of the field, I want someone there to give them second thoughts.

Cons: -Lack of ball skills (or maybe he's just more interested in hitting the guy, I don't know) - this, as you say, is what Collins does, so in the specific case of the Packers, it's not a huge minus. -Dude was out of position a lot this last season - does that mean he doesn't get it, or was he trying to do too much on a team that had lost so many players to last year's draft? Fodder for debate; I suspect it's more the latter than the former, personally.

I'd hate to see them pass on a good OT or DE/Rush LB just to get him - as much as I think he's potentially a great fit in this defense, I don't think he's worth missing on positions of equal or greater need. If he's there in the 2nd round, I'd love to see them make that move. I'm betting he'll be gone well before then, though - someone will see the freakish physical skills and convince themselves all he needs is their guidance to be a monster.
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TengoJuego
14 years ago
Jerry Hughes 😃
starpass
14 years ago
Mississippi's running back sensation Dexter McCluster dominated Oklahoma State in the Cotton Bowl on Sunday rushing for 182 yards and two touchdowns and he was named the Offensive Player of the Game....This guy is the next Chris Johnson. Grant who?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/318867-is-mississippis-running-back-dexter-mccluster-the-next-chris-johnson 
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Dulak
14 years ago
I thought spiller or wtfe his name is was supposed to be the next chris johnson ...

btw if we draft peeps they have to have long hair - I think we lead the nfl with long haired dudes ...
Since69
14 years ago
If McCluster wants to be the next Chris Johnson he'd better shave three tenths of a second off his 40 time...
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Packers_Finland
14 years ago
No one in this draft is going to be the next Chris Johnson.

Spiller can be a great player if used right. Jahvid Best should be used like Felix Jones in Dallas. McCluster I think would be a great 3rd down back, because he's a tenacious blocker and a good reciever.

Those are the speed back at the top of this draft. I don't much of Chris Johnson in them.
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starpass
14 years ago
I watched the Mississippi vs. Oklahoma State bowl game...This guy is the real deal! Remember, Larry Fitzgerald did not have a great 40 time at the combine...look at him today. This guy McCluster is elusive, makes guys miss tackles, has breakaway speed...and is a GAMER. He would be a good kick-off returner...sorry Jordy...I love you but...
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